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We need to check the GT3 forum to see the uproar about their 991 GT3 values dropping due to the suspension similarities.

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In the future, prospective 996 buyers are going to decide whether they go with the fried eggs shared with the Boxster headlight based on the GT race car of the era mistake or the appropriated turbo derived compromise headlights changed due to “Porschephile” pressure mistake.

"increasing value of watercooled 911s"

Replace flat six

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Of course, by that time it will be mandatory (at least in CA) to replace the flat six with a hydrogen fuel cell...

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Run we are all dead

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in the long run we are all dead

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We need to check the GT3 forum to see the uproar about their 991 GT3 values dropping due to the suspension similarities.

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In the future, prospective 996 buyers are going to decide whether they go with the fried eggs shared with the Boxster headlight based on the GT race car of the era mistake or the appropriated turbo derived compromise headlights changed due to “Porschephile” pressure mistake.

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Replace flat six

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Of course, by that time it will be mandatory (at least in CA) to replace the flat six with a hydrogen fuel cell...

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Run we are all dead

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in the long run we are all dead

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Found this on LinkedIn. If they're right I'd better hurry up and buy my 996! Value non-turbocharged 911's This comment from Walter Rohrl is a good indication: "no matter how good a turbo engine is, it can never have the pure response of a naturally aspirated engine....engines like this won't be made anymore". I predict that following the increasing value of watercooled 911's, the value of other later non-turbo 911s will now also start strengthening... http://jalopnik.com/real-talk-from-w...911-1685420602

POST 2Original post

Yeah...with a 996 and a Porsche 996 Brake Rotor clock you'll have it made! Better get on it fast....

POST 3Original post

You forgot to read the asterisk... **non GT-3 996 models excluded

POST 4Original post

Our cars are smoking hot bargains now. Sooner or later Joe Sixpack will figure that out (it's already starting - Jalopnik has made the connection). When I bought the GT3 a few months ago, I decided to keep my C2 rather than give it away at current values.

POST 6Original post

I don't know. The early 996's and boxters for that matter were new in the late 90's and are going on over 15 years old now. The more "valuable" models are well over 15 years old at the newest, and are more collectable as garage and parade cars than they were 10 years ago. So it's just natural, after 15 years, that some are turning around to buying the evil watercooled models or some are buying them because they are the only real deals/steals out there. Maybe now with the turbo/NA scare that's going on more people will buy one, but I think it's more to do with production numbers and that the valuable cars are just getting that much older and more collectable.

POST 7Original post

Eventually it'll be a survivors' game. Good examples of VW bugs (gawd, WHY?) go for decent money. 914's (gawd, WHY) are no longer practically free. Even the junkier air-cooled models that were selling for a few grand not that many years ago are getting pricey. Someday, the handful of remaining good examples of 996 will be valuable. We may not be alive to see it, but it will eventually take place. Of course, by that time it will be mandatory (at least in CA) to replace the flat six with a hydrogen fuel cell...

POST 8Original post

I have been looking to add another 951 to my stable. The prices for ones in great shape and decent mileage are approaching base C2 prices. Maybe there is hope for the 996.

POST 9Original post

in the long run we are all dead a) drive the cars and don't worry about values, they are made to be driven, not to appreciate as 'investments' b) manage your assets and money well c) compartmentalize a) from b)

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It would be ironic if only the original IMS cars were more valuable at that time as well.

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Then I'll be even more glad I didn't send my original bearing off to LNE when I slap this gold plated sucker back in

POST 12Original post

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"Oh, you don't have a matching-numbers IMS? Hmm...I'll think it over and call you back." The jury's still out on whether that was a cool, unique idea or you're just a weirdo.

POST 13Original post

DAMMIT - WHY DID I JUST ADD A TURBOCHARGED MODEL TO MY STABLE!!!

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Jake has developed The Solution to take out the IMS out of the equation for regular 996 owners. Maybe he can develop The Solution to put IMS into cars like the Turbo or GT3 models. There's a thought...

POST 15Original post

Every Mezger based Turbo and GT3 does have an IMS. Every Porsche flat 6 from 1964- 9a1 had an IMS, that includes GT3 and Turbo tol 2013.

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POST 17Original post

It is inevitable that the 996s will go up in value. It’s a high quality car. Every previous 911 has had its share of expensive quirks. And now that the IMS is both a maintenance item and a permanent fix, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be sitting on par with other “designed” flawed 911s of the past. If you didn’t believe it, none of you would own one and you wouldn’t be reading these words on this forum. However, what is going to attenuate values is the newness of the 996s. Not sure if production numbers will be an issue in the future. Others are beginning to realize that the criticisms aimed at the 986 / 996 similarities continue to be the business model Porsche uses with the Cayman / Boxster and 911s of the last two generations. When compared to the 996/986 models, I don’t see the big distinctions in the interiors between the 911’s and Caymans. Are they really that much different than the 996/986s were from each other? What about the new Cayman GT4 with its GT3 suspension! We need to check the GT3 forum to see the uproar about their 991 GT3 values dropping due to the suspension similarities. As most of you know, in 1972 Porsche designed the oil filler location in a place that was mistaken for the gas filler. It was a one year mistake. That year model is now considered more collectible. In the future, prospective 996 buyers are going to decide whether they go with the fried eggs shared with the Boxster headlight based on the GT race car of the era mistake or the appropriated turbo derived compromise headlights changed due to “Porschephile” pressure mistake. I wonder which one will be considered more rare or consistent with the Porsche purity in design philosophy?

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Ok but not a failure prone design technically, then can you come up with a dry sump to wet sump conversion kit at least?

POST 19Original post

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Meh, those guys are too busy tracking the container ships delivering their precious new cars to worry about anything. https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...king-dong.html

POST 21Original post

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Yes, I think last I checked, the Dong was transiting the Canal yet again - in, then out, then in, then out before finally spilling it's cargo load on Long Beach.

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