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YOUR RESEARCHDropped oil sump to find lots of shavings in oil pick up tube (pic), help?

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No noise ran perfect no issues

Dropped oil sump to find lots of shavings in oil pick up tube (pic), help?
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If it was changed the "mechanic" might never notice that spring if it slid into the engine on the crank end when he was pulling the old one.

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If it was changed the "mechanic" might never notice that spring if it slid into the engine on the crank end when he was pulling the old one.

Dropped oil sump to find lots of shavings in oil pick up tube (pic), help?

Replace oil filter and enjoy the rest of your day

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I would not worry about it (now that you have found it), so button up your now cleaned out oil sump, put in fresh oil, change the oil filter and enjoy the rest of your day.

Dropped oil sump to find lots of shavings in oil pick up tube (pic), help?

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Not too hard to push that spring off if he was using the "drill the seal flange to allow self tapping to grab the seal and pull it." pretty common way to pull a seal with out scratching the delicate sealed surfaces.

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If it was changed the "mechanic" might never notice that spring if it slid into the engine on the crank end when he was pulling the old one.

Dropped oil sump to find lots of shavings in oil pick up tube (pic), help?

Replace oil filter and enjoy the rest of your day

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I would not worry about it (now that you have found it), so button up your now cleaned out oil sump, put in fresh oil, change the oil filter and enjoy the rest of your day.

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No noise ran perfect no issues

Dropped oil sump to find lots of shavings in oil pick up tube (pic), help?

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Not too hard to push that spring off if he was using the "drill the seal flange to allow self tapping to grab the seal and pull it." pretty common way to pull a seal with out scratching the delicate sealed surfaces.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Dropped my oil sump plate today to replace it secondary to an oil leak from the locktite "gasket" to find this in my oil pick up tube metal catch. It was all stuck in that metal filter. It's all metal shavings. Doesn't look like the sump has ever been dropped before. 71k miles on a 99 c2. Wishful thinking, but is this normal? Or was I extremely lucky to catch an impending IMS failure?

POST 2Original post

Wouldn't call those shavings, or at least when I think of shavings I have something like what you get by drilling through metal. Just a pure guess bit that looks like the spring from a seal, a big seal, not sure how it would have got off though and be in that "good" of a condition. Weird. Unless that's the seal off of the ims? Makes sense as in that would be one of the only seals facing inwards, although I thought it would have been smaller than that. But it would explain why it didn't make noise, since the bearing and cage would still be "working". Would be easier if I had a chance to work on the engines and take them apart.

POST 3Original post

Not normal.... Having a hard time telling where the shavings are from. ... Was the car making noise? Almost looks like pulled threads..

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No noise ran perfect no issues

POST 5Original post

I worked in a machine shop. Definitely sharp metal edge around a cyl shape

POST 6Original post

It is about the right size to be the spring around the lip of the rear main seal. It would fall into the pan with out going through the oil pump or doing any real engine damage. Could have ripped the seal lip. Any black rubber bits. Did you ever have the seal changed? That could have been dislodged removing the original seal. The latest seal does not have that/any spring on it. You can clearly see the spring on that type of seal on the one that is standing up in the pic.

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That's what I'm thinking, but it would be really super lazy of someone to swap out a seal like that and leave parts in the engine. Plus fwiw I didn't think sealed bearings would have a spring seal like that, but the ims made sense at the time.

POST 9Original post

The IMSB does not have any springs like that. Pretty sure that is from the "old" style RMS. If it was changed the "mechanic" might never notice that spring if it slid into the engine on the crank end when he was pulling the old one. Not too hard to push that spring off if he was using the "drill the seal flange to allow self tapping to grab the seal and pull it." pretty common way to pull a seal with out scratching the delicate sealed surfaces. The spring would just ride around the crank until it caught on something, stretched, broke and fell into the pan.

POST 11Original post

I don't think OP has anything to worry about unless the RMS starts to drool.

POST 12Original post

That depends on how much the metal & plastic debris reduced the oil pressure..... fedekz986 - has there a reduction in oil pressure, or put another way, has there been an increase in oil pressure since the metal has been removed? but if you own a 986 as your name suggests, you won't know the answer as you don't have an oil pressure gauge....

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Nailed it. Those are not shavings, shavings look like little random pieces of metal. That's a spring from a seal.

POST 14Original post

The OP has a 99 C2. I'm thinking he "had" a 986 at some point in time.

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Pls restrain yourself You have nothing helpful to add to this discussion

POST 16Original post

To the OP - in the end here is the deal: I think fpb111 nailed it on the spring from an old RMS change out. Those are not shavings or anything like that. It got caught in the oil pickup screen and has caused no damage. Actually it is a relief to have found that and gotten it out of the oil sump. I would not worry about it (now that you have found it), so button up your now cleaned out oil sump, put in fresh oil, change the oil filter and enjoy the rest of your day.

POST 17Original post

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Excellent advice. I believe we are all in agreement. That is a RMS seal spring. You are good. The oil pickup screen did its job. Now enjoy the car.

POST 18Original post

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Agreed. The onlt thing I would add is to drop the sump plate at the next oil change to confirm that the motor is not shedding metal.

POST 19Original post

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I wouldn't, unless something else was found in the filter or on the screen.

POST 20Original post

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Why? Fingering your sump is in fashion for 2015. JR endorsed...

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for all the advice and information everyone. It's a relief they weren't shavings from the engine itself. It looked strange, being so finely coiled but makes sense after seeing the pictures of the seals. And to the guy who had an aneurism that my username has 986 and I was posting in the 996 forum... I had a boxster back in 2011 when I made this account and sold it. I didn't want to make a new username, and my original post clearly said 99 c2. Suppose there are dicks on every board though.

POST 22Original post

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Indeed. I like it...but it makes me feel so.... dirty

POST 23Original post

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Glad it was nothing serious. Back to enjoying it Thats just Hurdi, our resident 996 troll. No forum is complete without one

POST 24Original post

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Just noticed you're in Albany.. we should meet up now that Spring is here . I work at Langan Audi , stop by if you're in the area. There's another C4S in the area, Arctic Silver like mine, I think he's in Hudson. Mike

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