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I got on the interstate today with a 911SC and we ran hard a bit before he exited with a thumbsup and a smile.
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This, from an earlier thread, is probably the most authoritative list you'll find:
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Sorry it was supposed to be the WRX and I have first hand experience running against one with my 928, before the supercharger went on.
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It is faster according to Porsche's internal testing numbers and I've seen it personally.
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So what factory cars are faster than our 996's in a straight run? Post the usual cars you see every now and then like maybe STI's, Evo's, Lexus, Mercedes?
Yeah our cars are pretty slow compared to a lot of more modern cars.
However, a lot more modern cars don't have what we have; with exhaust our cars sound like some of the best on the road, the dynamics are great, great body lines, and a smile while driving is almost guaranteed (all subjective, just my .02)
The 996 wasn't really designed for straight line performance. My wife's new Audi SQ5 SUV would smoke my C4S at altitude. At sea level it would be really close!
Based in the attached website the 996's are faster than I would have thought. I think it's a little over stated... Personally, it's not the fastest red light to red light racer, but the seat is the pants feeling is great.
My old E39 or E60 M5 would smoked my 4S in a straight line, but it's just not the same thing. They felt like I was going 50 when doing 100 and my Porsche feels like I'm doing 100 when I'm going 50.
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche...mph-Times.html
This, from an earlier thread, is probably the most authoritative list you'll find:
Cool Traffic lights challenge!!!
I barely have a week with my Porsche, but every time I go and stop in a traffic light, I get challenged
Is this normal when you own a Porsche
My list and results so far :
Toyota celica street prepared/ won
Ford mustang Shelby/ won
Ford raptor/ won
Chevy camaro 2SS/ won
Dodge challenger SRT/ won
Honda Odyssey/ won (I'm not kidding on this one, neither on my result )
By the way the driver of the minivan a hot, blond soccer mom.
Porsche 2014 911 Turbo S/ lost
Still not what I asked.
I am talking about year models of
cars to compare against
, what year models are you allowing in the mix, only 99-05, or current year models as well?
I don't think a half a decade old STI is faster than a C2. I know a first gen Cayenne Turbonsure isn't. With the right driver, tires and track conditions, a C2 is a 12 second car and that isn't slow. For a N/A mid size 6 cylinder car, it is pretty impressive.
a 1/2 decade old wrx sti would dust a 996
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Subaru-0-60-mph-Times.html
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/everyd...tor-trend.html
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/subaru/...s-ar61201.html
you need to educate yourself. You to make alot of off the shelf comments with no research and little knowledge on the subject.
I need winter to come to AZ so I have a chance to finally see how fast can 996 go in the 1/4. I have not seen any decent 996 N/A 1/4 mile videos on youtube.
I hope some Scottsdale boys with Murcielagos show up, so I can dust one and become a 996 N/A equivalent of Dom Toretto.
Based on some of the subscribers from this Forum :
2012 Mia Electric Car 0-60 mph 30
2009 Tata Nano 0-60 29.4
1968 Fiat 850 Idromatic 0-60 mph 25.4 Quarter mile 23.0
1973 VW Super Beetle Convertible 0-60 mph 23.7 Quarter mile 22.2
1974 Datsun B210 Coupe 0-60 mph 22.5 Quarter mile 24.5
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit (Diesel) 0-60 mph 21.2 Quarter mile 21.9
1981 Cadillac Seville (Diesel) 0-60 mph 20.9
1981 Audi 5000S Diesel 0-60 mph 20.4
1968 Fiat 850 Spider 0-60 mph 19.9 Quarter mile 21.4
1980 Chevrolet Caprice Wagon (Diesel) 0-60 mph 19.6 Quarter Mile 21.7
and also if you're lucky and win to any of these your IMSB will fail after the run and kill you're engine
A first gen Cayenne Turbo is definitely faster than a 996 C2 if the driver of the Cayenne has half a brain. It is faster according to Porsche's internal testing numbers and I've seen it personally. A 996 Turbo is faster than a Cayenne Turbo.
The numbers I see suggest that with a "perfect" driver a 996 C2 is faster than an original CTT in the 1/4 mile, but the truck driver can just mash the throttle and hold on, while the car driver has to do all the work properly to win.
I don't really need any more unreliable SUVs, but it's taking everything I have to resist trading my X5 for a Cayenne GTS or '06+ Turbo S to play around with. I've always wanted one.
Our Cayenne S has actually been quite reliable.
I recall seeing 0-60 numbers for the Cayenne Turbo that were about 0.5 seconds faster than a C2. I'll have to see what I can find...
Honestly, I'd have sworn that I had seen 0-60 numbers in the high 4s for the original Cayenne Turbo just like you suggest, but I looked for them and couldn't find them. Did we imagine that or something?
It sure seems like the C2 should be quicker, but the 1/4 mile time is "around" 13.0 at 105mph, while the CTT is "around" 14.0 at 100mph (which seems damn slow for ANY 450hp vehicle).
If you find something different, let me know. I had always talked myself into a Cayenne Turbo by telling myself that it was an SUV that was faster than my 996, and if I find out that I'm wrong I might save myself some money.
Never been challenged, I think the Carrera badge scares most ricers off, plus the "don't even think about it" look I give the kids. Image is everything.
I agree.. altitude sucks.
Having lived in San Diego and now in Fort Collins...
I love my 40AE, but the next Porsche will be a turbo (even if it's a 951).
Yup. You lose 3% - 4% of your horsepower per 1,000 feet of elevation with a normally aspirated engine. I live at about 7,200 feet.
As I mentioned, the supercharged Audi SQ5 we just bought feels like a rocket ship compared to the 996.
With great driver and good launch 996 C2 will take the CTT. As speed increases the 996 advantage only grows due to air resistance disadvantage of the CTT. Now, which car will be able to achieve its factory times easier? CTT, no contest. It is mash pedal and hold on vehicle in the 1/4 mile; while 996 driver will need to nail the launch get 3 perfect gear shifts.
The 1st generation Cayenne Turbo had 450 PS (331 kW), and accelerated from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.3 seconds.
911 Carrera 320 PS (235 kW) @ 6800 rpm, 3.6L wet-sump 4.9 s 178 mph (286 km/h)
911 Carrera 4S 320 PS (235 kW) @ 6800 rpm, 3.6L wet-sump 5.0 s 174 mph (280 km/h)
911 "40 Jahre" 345 PS (254 kW) @ 6800 rpm, 3.6L wet-sump 4.8 s 180 mph (290 km/h)
911 Targa 320 PS (235 kW) @ 6800 rpm, 3.6L wet-sump 5.2 s 174 mph (280 km/h)
Dumbass thread is dumbass.
Potatoe.
OP, if you wanted a drag car, buy a solid chassis supercharged V-8 example from Detroit and drive between red lights. If you are dumb enough to stage up your 996 at lights you may very well get owned, by a lot of different cars.
Pro tip: the 996 isn't a dragster, it has capable pull, but driven correctly will own the corners...not the straights.
In my opinion this is a very beautiful model, especially aesthetically, I personally have owned several different character cars, but none of them makes the drive as an occasion. For me, even just looking at the car stationary feels exciting, for the money it costs there are a ton of beemers that can be lowered boosted etc etc to make it a rocket, but that is gone for me
300hp seems more than plenty
but the occasion factor is the most important for me, I recently sold my e46 m3 convertible, pretty quick and good car, but although it is an M it is still a just a beemer...
Sorry it was supposed to be the WRX and I have first hand experience running against one with my 928, before the supercharger went on. I see you like Googling a lot though.
Ouch, dude! That was mean. True but mean.
Get you a Mustang with a big assed motor if you want straightline. Me, I enjoyed keeping up with the aforementioned Mustang through the roudabouts because he kept breaking the rears loose at every exit.
I stayed hooked up and hung with him. But who cares? 911 ownership is about being "in the club". I got on the interstate today with a 911SC and we ran hard a bit before he exited with a thumbsup and a smile.
THAT is what this is about. That and pulling tail...
TC
You know, there is just a little TOO much "Porsche's aren't meant to go fast in a straight line" crap going on around here. Sure, they're not dragsters, but they aren't Delta 88's either. My 911 goes quite nicely in a straight line, and it goes around corners too. Pretty cool...
I smell a hint of BS on the wind whenever the explanations start flying about why cars with <5s 0-60 times aren't designed to go fast in a straight line...
I owned (for 7 months) a modified 2005 C6 Corvette 525hp. It would absolutely destroy my car thru the 1/4 mile. But my 996 is such a better car in every way. My son just picked up a new WRX the other day that's a bit quicker than my car. Maybe I'm showing my age and the boy racer in me is gone but I don't even car if my neighbors Camry was quicker. I love my 996 for the complete package that it is.
I agree that buying a 996 for straightaways is a bad idea and can be disappointing but overall the drive feel and enjoyment outweighs all of that. Hell, my nephew kept asking me to buy an Lancer EVO - probably faster - but that's just not me.
I used to have a 1988 VW Jetta GL. I autocrossed it a lot back in the early 90's. I did reasonably well in the Northeast SCCA. One time a couple of guys who just showed up at an event at Nassau Colisiem in NY were perplexed why my Jetta was faster around the course than their IROC-Z.
It's not all about 0-60, it's what the car can do.
With the new technology today, many cars/SUV's/station wagons can pull 0-60 times of less than 6 seconds (a 2011 A6 Avant is supposedly 6.0 - not an S, RS, just a regular family wagon).
Who cares about 0-60? That race is over before you know it. The 1/4 mile and beyond is more valid, and I can attest to the fact that the STI of any vintage can, at best, just about keep up with the 996. Certainly not dust it.
I jumped onto a freeway a couple of years ago and floored right it out of the hole (just for some occasional fun, I'm normally a grampa out there), but, unbeknownst to me in the dark of the evening, an STI decided to jump me - his unmistakeable headlights glaring at me in my rearview mirror. I saw the red mist (I know...I know...bad), and stayed in it well past 125mph, before I realized I should back off before I get caught. Well, guess what? Mr. STI slowly
receded
in my mirrors, but stayed in the fight. After I backed out, he did so as well, and coasted by me with a sheepish grin, and moved on. It was definitely an STI, btw.
At least ONE STI driver was caught off guard by a NA 996.
I guess it depends on the track. I was surprised to see some comments about a fellow autocrosser on this forum (albeit a long time ago):
https://rennlist.com/forums/autocros...roll-call.html
I was in Mark Daddio's IROC-Z limited option Camaro - no sunroof, fog lamps, a/c, and several other things. Very fun car.
Also the Kozlak's were very competitive in an IROC.
I also used to race in my friend's Mustang LX 5.0 (late 80's). It was set up for autocrossing and placed high nationally (although not as high as Daddio and the Kozlak's).
