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Would really like to get back on a track, but not going to risk my low mileage crispy clean aero until the UIDS is confirmed to solve oil pressure/starvation issues.
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Two weeks with this car after 3 1/2 years in my previous �00, and I am so pleasantly surprised. Prior to this upgrade I knew very little about the early build �99s. I�m not anywhere near as well informed as so many of you, but I�ve driven sports cars ever since I turned sixteen. I�ve just never been mechanical, and I didn�t grow up around anyone who was. A few thoughts about this incredible car�
1. The coupe of course feels so much more solid than the convertible did. I loved the cabriolet, and I did a lot of top down driving, but almost immediately after I got that car I wished I had gotten a coupe. I�m so glad I made the switch!
2. The fit and finish on the dashboard and elsewhere (the sort of pebble grain texture), and the slight shade differences of the different materials in the �99 are surprisingly nicer than my �00 was. I miss my fully automatic seats, but not enough to have the slightest regret.
3. The feeling of the door handles, the sound of the door closing, how nimble and light the �99 feels, the solid and more quiet way it drives up around 95-100 mph.
My understanding is that the early 996s share more components with the 993s than the years that followed. I don�t know the specifics, but if it�s true then perhaps that explains some of why this car feels better put together.
I�d like to find articles that talk about what makes the 99 unique. If anyone has any links, that would be great!
Anyway, I�m really loving the hell out of this car and wanted to share my thoughts!
I agree. Just one man�s opinion but I feel like with the .2, Porsche did a half-a$$ed job of trying to appease their loyal customers. In the last few years I have come to appreciate the amber (front and rear) on the �99, and I think the clear version in �00 also looks great (particularly on lighter colored cars like silver or white). Seems obvious that a lot more people are coming to appreciate the 996.1 - judging by the uptick in prices.
Congrats!!! Love the wheels on your car!
My first 911 experience was when I bought my clapped out '99 years ago. The suspension was loose and the engine was covered in oil. Cleaning my car up was a great learning experience and now it drives better than new.
Since then I've driven a couple 997s and 986 Boxsters but no other 996s. I often wonder if the grass is greener going to later 996s (C4s or Turbo) or even 987 Caymans. No regrets owning my car (I actually just bought it back after selling it) but cant help but wonder what other 996s are like
The curve of the 996.1 headlight is quite more appealing to look at than the angular design of the 2.
The headlight washer chrome cover on the 2 is distracting.
I wish I could switch out the headlights haha.
Have driven a handful iterations of 996 and 997 as well, the main exception being turbo on both. All the NA's are different no doubt, some differences seeming more negligible than others (IE 3.4L to 3.6L HP difference), but the general characteristics feel pretty consistent. Would really like to drive a turbo, but then again that'd probably cause me to sell the aero and upgrade. Cayman's seem like they'd be a ton of fun also.
I was eager to drive the Cayman. The mid engine feel, and the fact that I could have gotten an �07 for the same price as a �99 911 both had me curious.
The NAs have all horse power I need. I�ve gotten pretty risk-averse as I�ve gotten older, and rarely feel the need to go faster than 90-95MPH. I know that�s probably blasphemy to many guys on here!
What gen Cayman? I sat in a new one (current body style) a couple years back and it felt roomy, i'm 6'6". GT4 with the 918 seats works really well too. Likely 3-4 times the cost of my 996 so not a comparable option. Hell those 918 seats cost more than what I have into my 996 hahahahahaha
Would you though?? I would love to feel the rush of a 996 Turbo. Having no point of reference I always joke that I'd rather have a 996 Turbo vs a R35 Skyline GTR... but would it be as fun to toss around as our cars? I dont think i'd want an AWD car and the extra power would likely make me think twice about being as aggressive with the throttle as I have been with mine LOL
Generally I'm in the same boat, except not that old at 31. Just drive slower and enjoy the notes of the flat 6. Would really like to get back on a track, but not going to risk my low mileage crispy clean aero until the UIDS is confirmed to solve oil pressure/starvation issues.
It's hard to say. Originally the plan was drive the 996 for a while and try to find a gated 360 for the "forever car", but those prices are over $100k now so that's out of the question. A turbo would be as you suggest, just a reason to get in more trouble, but as most can attest, it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow, and these days, I don't do much driving so it's probably not worth it...., something something first world problem?
I can answer this.
Yes, the R35 is incredibly fast and incredibly dull. No comparison the 996 Turbo would be off the charts more fun.
Besides you can convert the 996 to RWD
Someone showed up at cars&coffee last Saturday with this gated 360.
What a beautiful car.
Hard to believe that they were relatively affordable not that long ago.
Yeah�I don�t want to get out of the car. I just went for an early evening drive up Pacific Coast Highway north of Santa Barbara. Ocean on one side, mountains on the other, and an empty expense of smooth roadway. Sublime.
I heard it from someone who has bought and sold hundreds of Porsches over the last several years. He inferred that the first year of the 996 shared more components with the 993, and that by 2000 this changed.
The most immediately noticeable thing when I got in the �99 the first time was the look at feel of many of the interior plastic. Other than that, you�ve got me. 🤔
It's definitely no dog, and of course was an improvement power and handling wise over it's NA predecessors. There's no bad day driving a Porsche of any type.
I'm wondering that also. My 2000 C2 6-speed coupe could not have possibly been more different (better) than my 2001 C4 Tip (which was new at the time). Of course Tip and C4 vs 6-speed and C2 are going to be quite different as well as adding 239 lbs. The coupe/cab weight difference is 174lbs, in addition to rigidity difference. You don't even want to know what the weight difference of a C4S cab tip is. I've said this before, but the way any individual 996 drives varies a
LOT
based upon options -- without exaggeration the driving feel differences are almost like different cars. The only thing I know that is different driving-wise about the 99 is the cable throttle versus electronic, but I'm subscribed to the thread to learn more.
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As I said, I�m hardly an expert on any of it, but
- 174 pounds is a lot of extra weight
- the coupe chassis is clearly more rigid, and a much better feel
- the cable throttle feels great
I never even considered a Tip but are you saying weighs 239 lbs more than a manual?
Regardless, for me it had to be a 6 speed. My daily driver is a Lexus GS350 and that�s all the Tip I�ll ever need.
Sorry for not being clear -- 239 lbs was the difference in weight for my 2 996's (C4/Tip/Coupe) to (C2/6sp/Coupe) -- the Tiptronic adds 108lbs, and C4 awd adds 131 lbs
That's the factory specified weight difference for a cab versus coupe -- however, I haven't been able to get a clear answer whether cab weight is with or without the removable hardtop installed. I think the removable hardtop is 74 lbs on it's own. If the cab weight includes the hardtop, then there would be only a 100 lb penalty for the cab when the hardtop is off. If it doesn't include the hardtop, then it would be 248 lbs heavier with the hardtop on.
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Not sure it's accurate, but this is where I got the number from (it's 74 according the thread, 70 was my esitmate from memory) ->
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...op-weight.html
I also own one 996 tiptronic coupe I prefer my 6 speed cars but it is fun sometimes to drive to a Cars and Coffee without spilling my get on the road first cup. 😁
Rich
