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I know it's technically splitting hairs, but I don't consider the chamfer an upgrade just an updated part that fixes an issue on early 997 987 but can also be used on 996 with no ill effects and has superseeded the 996 by-pass valve..

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Replace but thats about all this is doing

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If your car does not read 5 bar when cold or at high rpm yours might be worn and need to be replaced but thats about all this is doing.

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only thing changed by porsche

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Anyone would have had to be working closely with Porsche during this time to know WHY the chamfer was done , and it was the only thing changed by Porsche ..

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Replace but thats about all this is doing

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If your car does not read 5 bar when cold or at high rpm yours might be worn and need to be replaced but thats about all this is doing.

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Replace by porsche

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Anyone would have had to be working closely with Porsche during this time to know WHY the chamfer was done , and it was the only thing changed by Porsche ..

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Replace relief spring and plunger

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My experience and results replacing the relief spring and plunger with the updated parts is documented in the oil pressure thread.

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Replace but thats about all this is doing

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If your car does not read 5 bar when cold or at high rpm yours might be worn and need to be replaced but thats about all this is doing.

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Replace by porsche

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Anyone would have had to be working closely with Porsche during this time to know WHY the chamfer was done , and it was the only thing changed by Porsche ..

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Replace relief spring and plunger

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My experience and results replacing the relief spring and plunger with the updated parts is documented in the oil pressure thread.

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Replace spring

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Replacing the spring with a new one I do not consider an upgrade either just replacing a tired spring with a new one and if there was a difference in tired vs new it will effect the pressure the by-pass valve operates at.

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Replace tired spring

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Replacing the spring with a new one I do not consider an upgrade either just replacing a tired spring with a new one and if there was a difference in tired vs new it will effect the pressure the by-pass valve operates at.

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Use on 996

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I know it's technically splitting hairs, but I don't consider the chamfer an upgrade just an updated part that fixes an issue on early 997 987 but can also be used on 996 with no ill effects and has superseeded the 996 by-pass valve..

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Use word "updated" and not "upgraded" in this example

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BTW, Jake uses the word "updated" and not "upgraded" in this example..

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only thing changed by porsche

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Anyone would have had to be working closely with Porsche during this time to know WHY the chamfer was done , and it was the only thing changed by Porsche ..

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Those with superior mechanical knowledge, any thoughts about this? You Tube Thank you in advance, Mark

POST 2Original post

Mark, depending on if you get a response, you may want to consider posting this on zbombs oil pressure stability thread. Bet many would like to know if it helps in some way.

POST 3Original post

I recall this being recommended as a service item as the engine raises. It's said to help stabilize oil pressure at low rpm's I believe. I've done this in the spring with the upgraded 997 unit.

POST 4Original post

The pressure relief spring just opens a port so at over 5bar it doesnt overpressure the system. This doesnt effect the oil pressure system unless its at full pressure. If your car does not read 5 bar when cold or at high rpm yours might be worn and need to be replaced but thats about all this is doing.

POST 5Original post

Like so many things Porsche, this is an upgraded part. I believe it has to do with a chamfered end and stronger spring. The chamfered end is to prevent it from hanging up in the bore. I have not changed this out on my car. I have no problems so I'm leaving it alone (for now).

POST 6Original post

My experience and results replacing the relief spring and plunger with the updated parts is documented in the oil pressure thread. Not much though as it did not make a meaningful difference.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source posts: 18236411, 18236482

I did this a few years ago and the chamfer was the only difference I saw. The spring DID seem stiffer. I didn't notice any difference either.

POST 8Original post

That "updated by-pass valve" was only done to stop a squealing noise on 997 and 987. The chamfer is the only difference. The 997/987 engines had slightly different oil activated vario-cam system and when cold some early engines would make this squealing nose at low RPM before they warmed up. We fixed several by just grinding the small chamfer in the "996 type valve" , then Porsche updated the valve to "997" part number "with" the chamfer... Anyone who thinks it's an upgrade doesn't know why it was actually produced..I hate to bust anyones bubble, and it is a cheap part and certainly doesn't hurt to install it. I'm just trying to keep "internet folklore" at a minimum on technical items..

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you all. I figured it was a waste, so thrilled to get an assist from the RennList group! Mark

POST 10Original post

Quotes source posts: 18237360, 17447925

From post here https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post17447925 The pervasiveness of internet folklore is certainly real with regards to the M96.

POST 11Original post

Quotes source posts: 18238116, 17447925

That's because there has been a lot more people "talking m96" and a lot less people "doing m96"... The early 997 987 engines had the same by-pass valve as the 996, as well as the same spring, oil pump, and oil pump housing. Anyone would have had to be working closely with Porsche during this time to know WHY the chamfer was done , and it was the only thing changed by Porsche .. I know it's technically splitting hairs, but I don't consider the chamfer an upgrade just an updated part that fixes an issue on early 997 987 but can also be used on 996 with no ill effects and has superseeded the 996 by-pass valve.. BTW, Jake uses the word "updated" and not "upgraded" in this example.. Replacing the spring with a new one I do not consider an upgrade either just replacing a tired spring with a new one and if there was a difference in tired vs new it will effect the pressure the by-pass valve operates at. Shimming the spring would be considered a modification and would have an intended result in mind.. If I'm being too technical just let me know, sometimes I'm guilty of TMI...

POST 12Original post

I am certainly in agreement with you Skip, not an upgrade and only required if done so as a repair or preventative maint.

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