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Replace $20 aos bellows

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A $20 AOS bellows replacement fixed the issue.

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Replace mass air flow sensor

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Last summer I replaced the MAF. So a few weeks ago I changed the spark plugs, coil packs and AOS and now no more codes.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

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First things first - clean or replace the MAF sensor.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Disconnect /loose intake hoses

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– Incorrect signal from MAF sensor – Intake air system leaking – Fuel pressure too low – Volume supply of fuel pump too low – Fuel injectors fouled – Exhaust system leaking Likely causes are air leaks - like AOS, AOS bellows, oil filler cap, or disconnected /loose intake hoses.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Check of the vacuum lines and might as well

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Check all of the vacuum lines and might as well replace the oil filler tube while in there.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Replace idle

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Blocking with my hand does change the idle

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look
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Replace $20 aos bellows

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A $20 AOS bellows replacement fixed the issue.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Replace mass air flow sensor

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Last summer I replaced the MAF. So a few weeks ago I changed the spark plugs, coil packs and AOS and now no more codes.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Suggestion

First things first - clean or replace the MAF sensor.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Check of the vacuum lines and might as well

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Check all of the vacuum lines and might as well replace the oil filler tube while in there.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Disconnect /loose intake hoses

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– Incorrect signal from MAF sensor – Intake air system leaking – Fuel pressure too low – Volume supply of fuel pump too low – Fuel injectors fouled – Exhaust system leaking Likely causes are air leaks - like AOS, AOS bellows, oil filler cap, or disconnected /loose intake hoses.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Replace idle

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Suggestion · Original poster

Blocking with my hand does change the idle

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Replace oil filler tube while in there

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Check all of the vacuum lines and might as well replace the oil filler tube while in there.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Replace starter, looks like aos is not far

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Btw, I have to replace the starter, looks like AOS is not far from it.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Run tank of fuel

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Then run a tank of fuel with some Techron in it.

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Replace $20 aos bellows

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A $20 AOS bellows replacement fixed the issue.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Replace mass air flow sensor

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Last summer I replaced the MAF. So a few weeks ago I changed the spark plugs, coil packs and AOS and now no more codes.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look

Suggestion

First things first - clean or replace the MAF sensor.

My AOS failure symptoms - please take a look
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi all! Some background on the car, 2001 C2, 87k, just got it two weeks ago, and suposedly in only did 7000miles since 2009, so it was sitting somewhere for long time I guess So here is the list of symptoms : P1128 + P1130, LongTerm Fuel Trims are at -17% Extremely hard to startup, have to crank for 20 seconds and it gets worse everyday Oil Filler Cup off - good suction can be heard, but cap does come out. Blocking with my hand does change the idle Thanks

POST 2Original post

Maybe this post will help? https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...e-opinion.html

POST 3Original post

Or this one? Seems these codes are related to a vacuum issue or MAF? https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...128-p1130.html

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From Loren at RennTech Covered many many times here... – Incorrect signal from MAF sensor – Intake air system leaking – Fuel pressure too low – Volume supply of fuel pump too low – Fuel injectors fouled – Exhaust system leaking Likely causes are air leaks - like AOS, AOS bellows, oil filler cap, or disconnected /loose intake hoses. Could also be a bad MAF but that is easy to check with Durametric - just look at the MAF voltage at idle and see if it increases with RPM. If it doesn't then it is bad.

POST 5Original post

First things first - clean or replace the MAF sensor. p1128 corresponds to: "Long Term Fuel Trim B1 System Too Lean" which means that the car thinks it's running leaner than it should be. p1130 corresponds to: "Air/Fuel Sensor Circuit Range/Performance (Bank 1 Sensor 1)" which basically means the same as the p1128. Then run a tank of fuel with some Techron in it.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Why not AOS? MAF has voltage, I read it with a scan tool. Btw, I have to replace the starter, looks like AOS is not far from it.

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^^^^^ This. If you are replacing the starter, and the AOS, all sorts of these things need to be taken out. Why not clean the MAF sensor? And the TB, ICV at the same time. Check all of the vacuum lines and might as well replace the oil filler tube while in there.

POST 8Original post

I had the identical pcodes a few weeks ago along with smoke from the exhaust and it was hard to remove the oil filler cap. Last summer I replaced the MAF. So a few weeks ago I changed the spark plugs, coil packs and AOS and now no more codes. I'm at 160,000 km.

POST 9Original post

Had the same codes on my '99 Boxster. Usually some sort of vacuum leak. Particularly if the car has been sitting outside, the plastics can just dry rot. My AOS bellows was dry-rotted and cracked. A $20 AOS bellows replacement fixed the issue. I would plug a smoke machine in before you just start replacing parts ***** nilly.

POST 10Original post

Sounds like a MAF, or the MAF and AOS are failing simultaneously. Hard starting also comes from one of the camshaft hall effect sensors failing, as the engine's "fast start" is not active with only one sensor being read. Lots of times there are no fault codes of this.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the replies. The car goes on 4 jack stands for a while, bought it as project car. Will keep you updated by how it all comes out.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Oh, by the way, what is "AOS Bellows" - I see this item mentioned here and there, but what it is actually? Link anybody? Thanks

POST 13Original post

The bellows is the accordion-fold tube at the bottom of the AOS. It is part of / included with the replacement AOS.

POST 14Original post

Look for unmetered air leaks between the MAF and the throttle body. Fixing those are free.

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