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YOUR RESEARCHAftermarket LEGAL Cats?
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The state only requires that you pass the OBD2 plug-in check during the state inspection.
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Have done nothing but brake and oil change jobs for a while.
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Has to be stock parts or CARB approved for it to pass, even if the mods make it run cleaner out of the pipe!!
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Do any of the aftermarket guys (Fabspeed, Awe, etc) make a quality cat that is also street legal? Sites are a little confusing and hoping that i can go aftermarket instead of again with the stock part. I have searched a bit and not able to get a definitive answer.
I don't think there is any
legal
attribute assigned to aftermarket catalytic converters. The state only requires that you pass the OBD2 plug-in check during the state inspection.
My Fabspeed setup
causes no inspection or emissions issues.
HTH
Call Mike at AWE-tuning.com (site sponsor) he can tell you if legal or not, they are very helpful and honest. I know many people that do use their cats/exhausts systems on street cars which have no problems with passing an emissions test.
Hope that helps,
Thanks guys - these two companies seem to be the leading contenders for me.
There is also MaxSpeed that trades on ebay a lot and they do offer pretty good prices - anyone work with them? They will end up bring about $600 less for the cats and muffler combo, but wondering if it is worth it given time in market/rep. Thoughts?
Yep, that's CA's crappy crap laws in action. Has to be stock parts or CARB approved for it to pass, even if the mods make it run cleaner out of the pipe!! You would be forced to take it off and make it hurt the environment MORE for it to pass. Freaking bass ackward state...
Okay cool so as long as they dont throw a CEL, then shoudl be good to go. Great news. Anyone try those MaxSpeed units or should i just go with Awe or FabSpeed?
I would go with AWE over Fabspeed or MAX. What I have seen from Max is cheap stuff, get what you pay for. Some people havn't liked the sound of the Fabspeeds so I would suggest trying to listen to some, at a minimum they are available as sound clips on the internet, or better yet in person before you pull the trigger.
I am sure both Fabspeed and AWE could suggest some possible customers that might let you hear their cars if they live close by.
As for my personal taste in which sound I prefer, I like the AWE units for mufflers and cats. I also like their quality better.
This is a shame because the stock cats don't last very long! They seem to make it just out of the warranty period then the upstream catalyst breaks free and rattles around!
as said before, NO aftermarket cats are legal in CA. You may get by just fine because the SMOG station doesn't know any better, but technically ALL aftermarket cats are illegal.
"Most" of the time in CA you can get by just fine because the SMOG guys don't know what's stock or not.
I vote for AWE between your choices. Also, Cargraphic is good and warranties their cats for 2 years.
Ditto what eric523 said. You may pass smog but you would fail the visual inspection. If you get a station that knows what they are doing, they could fail you.
As far as replacing a failed cat. you MUST replace with the OEM cat. only. Warranty is another issue. But only OEM'S are allowed.
well - just as closure to the thread ended up going with fabspeed solution. getting cats, mufflers, and tips (quad - poser i know). Hoping that i like the sound and not expecting any real performance bump. Lifetime guarantee on the product and pretty agressive pricing helped with the decision as well.
Yep and looking forward to doing this myself. Have done nothing but brake and oil change jobs for a while. Of course will be working on the Lemons car this weekend as well so have lots of wrenching ahead!
Hi Bill, fedex will be delivering the parts tomorrow, so it will be a perfect upgrade for the weekend. Give me a shout and let me know how it all worked out, enjoy it.
Thanks,
My car passed with Fabspeed loud exhaust - headers and 100 cell cats. The inspector was looking under the front of the car for the cats!!!! I had to show him were they are.
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