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YOUR RESEARCHIs this CPS bad?
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o2 sensors, not the cps
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I have taken apart the SAI and cleaned it, taken out the MAF and cleaned it, cleaned and recalibrated the throttle body valve.
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I've inspected the grounds and they were all clean.
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I've started having a stall plus no restart when hot issue. The dealership did some diagnostics and said the fuel pump was going, but not bad. It was about 10 psi low on a restart. Otherwise, everything else checked out with the engine. Picked it up from the dealership and stopped for an errand, but it would not stop. Once I got it home, I changed the fuel pump with a new VDO pump and changed the fuel pump relay. Took it for a test drive and it started fine and accelerated sharply. On the 3rd or 4th stoplight it stalled (not sure when but I noticed it when I tried to accelerate for the green light) and would not restart. Pushed it into a parking lot and tried to restart but no success. This was about 6 or 7 pm. Went back the next morning and it started fine. Got it home and checked the codes. The only code thrown throughout this ordeal was a SAI bank 2 code. I have taken apart the SAI and cleaned it, taken out the MAF and cleaned it, cleaned and recalibrated the throttle body valve. I did some research and noticed a lot of stall when hot and no restart until it cools tend to point to the CPS. I took out the CPS and cleaned it and have before and after pictures. The sensor and cable looks fine so I'm not sure if I should change the sensor or look some where else. After the cleaning the car started just fine, just like before, but I haven't had a chance to do a test drive yet. I would prefer not to kill my back having to push it through another intersection. Any help would be appreciated.
These are the dirty pictures.
Here are the cleaned pictures. I noticed what appeared to be corrosion at the base.
Some CPS sensors have some minor circuitry in them that can die,
I've replaced them at 80 to 150 K on several cars... Every one of mine
started with longer cranking times then at some point they just quit.
Now-days I just buy the set, at about 80 K and swap them all..
CPS,TPS,IAT,MAF and 02. Then all the working ones go in a
box for emergencies.
Hot start issues can be caused by many things - i'd check:
- Starter to alternator cable - thats my bet - if its original just change it - it's a wear item
- Starter itself - can do it while you're doing the cable
- Battery - can be tested at an auto shop or with a multimeter
Is this a 986 or 996? Your avatar is a 986?
2000 911 C2 Cab. It's arctic silver with grey top and interior. The boxster was totaled when a truck on I-95 ran it over.
But, none of those would explain it stalling while the engine is hot and then restarting after several hours would they? If the battery wasn't charging and died would it have enough power to restart the car hours later? I need to look into the y-cable and see how that is doing. I've inspected the grounds and they were all clean. I also want to swap out the fuel filter just to verify that isn't the problem.
Just about every CrankPS/TPS/Cam Position sensor failure I've seen, heat was a factor/initiator of the problem.
Fuel is tested with pressure,, I just tap in a pressure gage and see if it holds pressure well, Electric fuel pumps again are
usually triggered by heat. A regulator that's stuck shut will overheat the pump due to excess head pressure,
bad filter also will cause the pump to get hot. When they get hot they often can cavitate so bad they quit moving fuel.
Good Luck!
You will have to hook up a proper scanner and monitor it when the stalling and no restart happens or else you will be chasing you tail for a long time.
That's what I thought too. Based off the responses so far I'm ordering a new one. The tach doesn't appear to bounce while cranking either. It's sits on the bottom until the engine catches and the jumps up to about 1500rpm.
The CPS is swapped out, but haven't had a chance to take it for a test drive. My daughter decided to help and "installed" the CPS mounting bolt into the rotor. Yeah, she put it into one of the wheel mounting bolt holes and inside the drum portion of the rotor. When it's time to change the pads and rotors in5 already a leg up. Process seems to be the same as my old 944. I was not planning on taking apart the brakes today, though.
I took it for a 10 Mike drive over the weekend and all was good. Decided to chance it and drive it to work today. No stalls and drove like a dream. It's about 30 miles one way highway on the way in and in town on the way back. No issues. Appears the CPS was the problem.
I finally just started doing it as a maintenance item on my cars at about 80K,
New CPS/TPS/IAT/Cam Position Sensor.
The drive-ability improvement is almost always worth it and the engine always seems to run smoother,
I put the old ones up on a shelf for emergency failures.
Did your car ever throw a check engine light?
I�ve had similar symptoms the last few times I�ve driven:
Once on a hot day (96�):
Car stalled at a slow speed rolling into a parking lot; engine temp needle was a bit past the �8� in �180�. It started right back up and completed the rest of the trip with no drama.
Today, after about 40 miles of driving, and the last few being idle heavy, and the needle past the �8�, pulled into my garage and idled for about a minute, and the check engine light came on.
I have seen a few CPS go bad and never leave a fault, best way to tell if CPS is bad is while cranking the engine, observe if the RPM tach needle is bouncing, no bounce or reading then CPS or wiring is the issue.
My car cranks and starts really fast so hard to tell if there�s a bounce. Backstory is - a LOT of new components after my engine-out job. I do get an idle bounce at idle randomly, at stoplights. Could be the fuel system, vacuum, CPS, could be anything at this point
Car has been going strong for 600 miles since the job so far.
I don't think you understood what I meant, on the next no start situation while cranking, look to see if the tach needle is moving, if it starts the CPS is working, they also known to quit working and working again after sitting for while.
+1 CPS's are the devils work, they fail randomly, intermittently then behave till your out of cell range and die completely...
Not just Porsche either...
