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Meh, your car was nice, but it was not a [factory installed aerokit.
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This 996 is now offered with service records, owner’s manuals, a window sticker, accessories, a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity, a Carfax report, and a clean New York title in the seller’s name.
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Install aerokit ii until i brought up the option code
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You never said XAA or factory installed Aerokit II until I brought up the option code.
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When I was looking for my first 996, I considered a mk2 996 coupe that had the taco aero wing and side skirts installed by the factory, but it did not have the OEM GT3 aero front bumper; therefore, it did not show the kit XAA option code.
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A car that has all those parts installed from the factory is an OEM Aerokit.
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When I was looking for my first 996, I considered a mk2 996 coupe that had the taco aero wing and side skirts installed by the factory, but it did not have the OEM GT3 aero front bumper; therefore, it did not show the kit XAA option code.
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I think the time may have come to sell. 2002 C4S, FSI 4.0L Street Performer, New Bilstein B4s, New starter and Y cable, Fister exhaust etc etc. My question is, should I wait until next spring? Was going to go the BaT route (worked out well for my 99 C2). I just don't drive it as much as I should and we're in the process of buying property oversees amd the money would come in handy. Would love to get your thoughts on timing and price. TIA.
Past sales have shown a 0% to 20% bump for the FSI 4.0 at auction. In other words the FSI motor investment you made should be thought of as a writeoff.
Which doesn't make any sense to me. I plan on passing mine down in my will but if you want to try and maximize your return you may do better in a private sale. There are people waiting 1+ years to get an FSI motor. Go find one of them.
That's a good point, and I never considered the FSI purchase as an investment, but rather just to enjoy. I have a 10 yr old daughter who's not really into cars so wouldn't make sense to pass it down (even if she could drive it in CA) by the time she's of age. Just starting to think I could put the money to better use if I sold it.
The problem would be information /knowledge most people don’t know FSI and their awesome motor
the key would be to provide as much info to the AD as possible
Gotta agree with
@EVOMMM
Unless recent or prospective buyers have had prior experience with owning a 996, 997.1, 986, 987, or had performed years of research understanding m96 issues and the plethora of available procedures and solutions, they dont fully grasp how significant a good rebuild is. Hence paying more attention to color and condition/miles rather than service history or who did the rebuild.
We see it every day on BAT where a well sorted 996 doesn't get much of a premium if at all, over a low mileage unicorn color with no service history and therefore ticking time bomb for cash outlay. Now that the 996 is the hot Porsche to own, the market will eventually figure it out. It always does.
Bash, do what you gotta do for your family. You have a great car with a great engine and it should be very easy to sell. If it was my car, I would hold onto it providing time for market prices to catch up to the significance of the engine.
I already have 2 so I'm not your buyer but best of luck. What color? How many miles on the FSI 4.0? Your best buyer might be someone on RL. I hope you get top $ for it.
My 2 cents on BAT, based on my experience...
At least for my situation, I found that BAT customers gloss over the engine rebuild and focus on everything but mechanical and technical updates. While I expected my car to take a hit for the Tiptronic, I did not expect it to take a hit based on the odometer mileage, even though the engine had 10k miles on it since rebuild (we are talking complete rebuild with nickies, Hoffman heads, etc) and the tranny had 1,000 miles on it since rebuild. Hundreds of people were watching my auction. A couple of people peppered me with questions, which I answered almost immediately, yet those two people didn't even bid on the car. End result was it did not meet my low (what I thought was low) reserve and I ended up making a deal with the highest bidder, but well below sell price I was hoping to get.
The BAT auctioneer was even surprised by the result. He did mention that sometimes the wrong audience is watching and bidding. So there is that dynamic with BAT. I think you should try selling the car on the various Porsche forums first, but price it realistically. As mention in earlier posts, you won't get anywhere near the value of the FSI engine as you think it deserves (or any rebuilt engine for that matter) unless you find the right person.
My experience last year on BAT was not great, pulled ok money for the car, but the timing could not have been worse.
A Speed Yellow with every option possible less than 10k on miles went on 24 hours after mine started,
I got almost $37k, for 83k miles on a Carrera Aero, about $40k, after I sold all the accessory items I took off before selling.
The Speed Yellow car, ended up being a record breaker at the time, not sure now what the high end is.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...11-carrera-77/
Meh, your car was nice but it was not an OEM aerokit and had significant modification and (relatively) high miles. You got all the money for that thing in that venue. The only thing BaT values highly are stock, relatively low mileage cars. That's just how it is.
Another thing to consider with BaT is what is their backlog. I've detailed some cars that people wanted to sell this year and BaT wouldn't even take them or they were months out on listing. Best to reach out and see what they say, maybe list it locally and on the forums and start there. I am sure it's a fun car with a 4.0.
BH - Ok, you’ve had time for the idea of selling to percolate. Now go drive that beautiful car and chillax. You didn’t do what you did as an investment. You did it so your
car
could age more gracefully, not
you.
What was not OEM about his aerokit? He had the GT3 front bumper skin/chin spoiler, side skirts, and Carrera "whale tail" style rear spoiler. The OEM Carrera style spoiler alone cost more than the entire Aerokit II package.
carrera rear spoiler:
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/996REARW.html
aerokit II package:
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/00004480202.html
Maybe read the listing before making these assumptions.
From the BAT listing "
The body is finished in Orient Red Metallic and fitted with an Aerokit-style front bumper, rear wing, and side skirts."
It could be the car one is trying to sell but my experience was a bit different. I waited a couple of weeks for an "auction specialist" to be assigned, then spent another week tweaking the listing and pictures to my satisfaction. The car got listed within days after that. A little more than a month from start of process to live auction. But it was not a 996, which they probably see in higher numbers. I auctioned a 2015 Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG Coupe, which had much lower production numbers than any 911.
I suggest you learn to be a "Rennlist Community Team" Leader and not an *******.
FYI, just because the car doesn't have an XAA aerokit option code from the factory doesn't mean it's not installed by the dealership or by the owner after purchase. Many dealerships installed these kits in part or in whole to add value for sale or by owner request. If you look at the option sticker (and yes, I looked at it before commenting), you'll notice the OEM Carrera spoiler and side skirts were installed at the factory. When I was looking for my first 996, I considered a mk2 996 coupe that had the taco aero wing and side skirts installed by the factory, but it did not have the OEM GT3 aero front bumper; therefore, it did not show the kit XAA option code. So this config is not uncommon. I've seen quite a few. I'm not sure if the owner/ BAT seller that you criticized had the GT3 front bumper installed or maybe it was installed by the dealer? But that's beside the point. What about this car's GT3 front bumper, side skirts, and rear Carrera spoiler is not OEM and not apart of OEM aero options that can be purchased and installed post-sale? You never said factory installed XAA optioned car.
Chassis mileage also matters.
A 996 with 12K on a FSI 4.0 but a 120K on the odometer is still a 120K mile car.
That�s true
But I don�t think that is limited to Bring a Trailer.
The market values stock, low mileage 996s as well as rare colors and specs.
Aftermarket wheels, custom interiors, wings, etc have a negative effect on value.
This is what happens to a Porsche when it reaches classic status.
I am sure they have a certain amount of X cars they take from manufacturers. The one recently was a restored OG G Wagon, the one from the 80s, kinda reminds me of the OG Defenders with the open top and all that. Fully restored. The other was last year and it was older pickups, like older as in 50s which surprised me.
Why the OP would consider selling the car anywhere but on this forum is beyond me - you are going to have the highest percentage of viewers who are likely to place a premium on the FSI engine. All else being equal, the value of the car is what it is - the motor is the wildcard.
What I would do is start a new thread on how sick the FSI motors are... let that **** percolate for a bit and hope some fresh eyes catch it and start salivating for one of their own. Drop some hints in there how they are oodles and oodles of money AND hard to get (exclusive).... Maybe even elude to the fact that a great way to get into an FSI engine is to buy into one in an otherwise beautiful car (DON't mention how they refuse to support 2nd owners though).
Then, when you have lured some new no nothing's BOOM - drop that for sale and start counting your dollars in your new villa on the Riviera.
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Again, completely incorrect. Those are available options, yes, but not the correct parts for a 996.2 aerokit.
See here:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...rrera-coupe-5/
Just for clarity of your "Rennlist Community Team" leadership skills...
You said this to David:
I asked you kindly this question:
You didn't answer the question and responded with this back handed response:
I retorted your lame response with a detail explanation that all of David's parts are OEM and aerokit options. I also pointed out that you did NOT say, "
Meh, your car was nice, but it was not a [factory installed aerokit. (option XAA)]"
But again, you come back and still didn't answer my original question.
I asked you a simple question: "What was not OEM about his aerokit?"
Can you answer it?
A Porsche certificate of authenticity. Really? That's all you got for OEM versus non-OEM???
[OFFICIAL RL ANNOUNCEMENT!]
Ok everyone, if you're driving around in a Porsche 996 with a dealer installed Aerokit or installed by a bodyshop or even by a previous owner, then it's really not authentic and definitely NOT OEM. Why? Because it was NOT installed by Stuttgart factory hands; therefore, it's not real says our resident expert - brotosaurus. That's right... You're living in a fantasy world.
Even if it has Porsche part numbers, they mean nothing outside of the hallowed walls of the factory. Just ignore them because they mean nothing if it's not listed on the COA - the only real authentic proof that it will fly with Porsche purists.
Gimme a freakin' break... I'm done.
OEM Aerokit for 996.2 is basically GT3-look. The car we are discussing is definitely not that. Fun tidbit, the aerokit front bumper is actually a different part than the GT3 as it doesn't have the extra radiator cutout.
You asked why a car with the 996.2 Aerokit front bumper, Aerokit sideskirts and non-Aerokit rear spoiler is not an OEM Aerokit. Well, 1/3 of the parts that comprise the OEM Aerokit (XAA) are wrong. The seller had the bumper installed in 2013. It did not leave the factory that way, hence my original statement. "Not an OEM Aerokit".
Hope this helps!
edit: the OEM GT3 spoiler lid is $14k new. It's not an insignificant factor in the price difference either.
I was in the process of purchasing the Mk2 aero kit front bumper skin out of Germany. OEM with Porsche part numbers. The OEM bumper skin was very expensive at the time and it did have the cut out for the third radiator. Now, if that's changed, that I don't know, but when I was looking to purchase it, it did have the cutout.
Now, If you're talking about the factory (XAA) Aerokit II option package, then yes, the aerokit is called a GT3-style aerokit package and has the GT3 Mk2 style rear aero wing all based on the GT3, but again, that's was NOT my original question. You said, it was not an OEM aerokit. I questioned the OEM part and you weren't helpful, but chose the insulting route instead. Can you not see that???
I feel like a broken record. You never said XAA or factory installed Aerokit II until I brought up the option code. I simply questioned, "What was NOT OEM about David's aerokit?". You first said that if it's not XAA and now, you're saying if it's not on a COA, then it's NOT OEM. And, that's NOT entirely true, is it?
All of the OEM aerokit parts can be purchased as a kit or in part from Porsche.... installed by the dealerships or by yourself. The Porsche police are not coming to your house if you chose to install in your personal garage. But it's still OEM and it's still aerokit parts.
You like pictures? Just so that others understand. We all like Suncoast Porsche because of their robust website. Here are frame grabs where you can purchase the individual parts or you can actually purchase the entire Aerokit package that would normally be listed as a XAA from the factory.
(DON't mention how they refuse to support 2nd owners though)
Not true in my case, I personally spoke with Jake before and after becoming the 2nd owner of a recently completed FSI 4.0. He has/had every right to choose not to deal with subsequent owners, and I believe all 1st owners did business with FSI knowing that.
OK, but the below may not be something you want to include in your add if you�re looking to maximize a financial return on your FSI engine� just sayin.
You are correct
I just didn't want another RL p..... contest
My car was special ordered with Carrera Wing, Aero Skirts and Paint code Orient Red Metallic, along with some other options.
When this car was ordered, you could order a Carrera Aero II in a complete three piece kit (1 code) or three individual items (3 codes).
If you wanted the Carrera Wing, also the same Wing Aero II Wing for Convertible 996.2, you had to order three separate items.
When the car was ordered the GT3 Bumper skin that is used on Aero cars and GT3s, were delaying delivery.
Dealer told Customer they could install one.
Car arrived the Dealer, the dealer could not get the Aero II / GT3 Bumper skin as promised to buyer, car was traded back in after 7 months or so.
Fun tidbit
You can order either way, with cut out for center radiator or not.
The ONLY difference in items the black plastic insert and GT3 brake ducts complete the package.
That is fact at the time of install in 2014/2015.
All of the Bumper kits came from Atlanta, at the time when i ordered, there were 8 Bumper kits in USA and 4 in Germany.
Again, RL facts are always a little elastic 🤣🤣😂
The alternative facts
Some people speak when then don't know the facts
Again, not being able to edit BAT text on ads leaves some with alternative facts
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You have all the facts?
Are you absolutely sure?
Was this car EVER marketed as a Aero Kit II car, NO, never,
so your words are not based in any factual content
What percentage of Carrera Aeros and Aero Kit II s were ordered with one option code vs. three option codes?
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This is the opening sentences of Bat ad:
This 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera coupe is finished in Orient Red Metallic over Savannah Beige leather and is powered by a 3.6-liter flat-six paired with a six-speed manual transaxle. Equipment includes 18″ Cargraphic wheels, a Techart suspension,
Aerokit-style bodywork, an IPD Competition intake plenum, a 911 GT3 throttle body, Kline exhaust headers with a 200 Cell “X” pipe, Tubi Style mufflers, an EVOMS Stage IV ECU tune, RSS Mounts and RSS underdrive pulley, a rear roll bar,
power-adjustable heated seats, xenon headlights, and a Becker Porsche CD stereo with the High-End sound package. The car was sold new by Joseph Northland Motors in Cincinnati, Ohio, and acquired by the seller in 2014. An LN Engineering IMS bearing was installed in 2016, and service since 2021 includes flushing the brake fluid and changing the oil. This 996 is now offered with service records, owner’s manuals, a window sticker, accessories, a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity, a Carfax report, and a clean New York title in the seller’s name.
This was requested to be corrected to this and denied by Bat, justified by, "We sell a lot of cars, and your rep knows what he is doing"
This 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera Aero Coupe is finished in Orient Red Metallic over Savannah Beige leather and is powered by a 3.6-liter flat-six paired with a six-speed manual trans-axle.
Additional equipment includes Xenon headlights with washers, fog lights, a sunroof, and Stainless Steel exhaust outlets. Power-adjustable heated seats and a Becker Porsche CD stereo with the Bose High-End sound package.
The car was special ordered with unique options and sold new by Joseph Northland Motors in Cincinnati, Ohio, and acquired by the seller in 2014.
This 996 Carrera Aero, PCA member owned since 2004, is now offered with service records, owner’s manuals, a window sticker, accessories, a Porsche Certificate of Authenticity, a Carfax report, and a clean New York title in the seller’s name.
This 2003 Carrera Aero sits on a complete Techart Suspension consisting Coil Springs, Front and Rear Sway Bars, Front Strut Brace, Bilsten B8 struts. Three-piece 18″ Cargraphic wheels were rebuilt in 2019 and are wrapped in 235/40 front and 295/30 rear Sumitomo HTR Z III tires
Braking is handled by four-piston Porsche-branded calipers and cross-drilled rotors. A brake fluid flush with Wilwood fluid was carried out in September 2021 at 83,487 miles.
Your post is one of the reasons I lost interest in owning a 996
Six or seven years ago, RL was not like this, 6speed fell off the because of all of the trolls
This is my point exactly.
A car that has all the parts that comprise the XAA Aerokit is an Aerokit car. A car that has all those parts installed from the factory is an OEM Aerokit.
The red car has Aero parts, but not all the parts that comprise the Aerokit, it is not an Aerokit car, nor is it an OEM Aerokit car. It is a car with OEM Aero parts.
Hope this helps clarify the confusion for some folks here
I'll make another post to note that I picked up a new GT3 front bumper in 2021 to sort out some minor scrapes from the PO on my car. The price differential between the Aerokit and the correct GT3 part was about $1k.
Yeah, no worries. Appreciate it. Not sure how this devolved into a Aero Kit thread. Maybe those guys want to start a separate thread discussing the ins/outs of that topic?
Sir, this has become a merry-go-round aero debate. This could have been solved at the very beginning by YOU kindly explaining your comment that you meant a factory installed XAA Aerokit, but instead you gave a back-handed response that is NOT entirely true.
First of all, a brand new Porsche 911 can have an official genuine aerokit added at the dealership upon arrival. It might not be a true aerokit in your book (because wasn't installed at the factory), but it's still a true aerokit with true genuine Porsche parts.
If you really want to get nit picky, a part installed at the factory during assembly is not called "OEM". If anything, it's considered genuine OE. Porsche aerokit parts that are sold by a licensed dealer network are called genuine parts manufactured by one of Porsche approved OE factories. OEM is broader and can means the manufacturer supplies at least one OE parts to the factory (i.e. Porsche).
I have a 2003 Dark Teal Metallic C2 Manual with 48k on the clock and 2k on an LN 4.0 rebuild. Think I can pull 30k?
No arrow kit. Also no aero kit. And no aero kit II. No tacos or burritos. But it does have an RPM Technik non-oem cf ducktail.
Well, if you read back, you'll see our infamous Brontosarus hit a nerve with me. He could have been nice and respectful by kindly clarifying his "it's not an OEM aerokit" comment to Bruce when in fact, Bruce's car aerokit is OEM; but instead, he chose antagonism.
RE: your 996 car with the FSI engine:
IMHO, it would be smart to wait until next spring and list it on BAT. I've listed on BAT and your rep should be more than welcome to mention in detail that the engine was a 4.0L built by Flat 6 Innovations. I would also take pro-level images of the car all cleaned up along with any documentation to support the rebuild and any modifications. I agree the C4S will bring more money over a base Carrera and the fact that the engine has been rebuilt with nikasil sleeves and all known M96 problems corrected, this should bring you a pretty penny. Just make sure you're happy with the reserve they grant you BEFORE moving forward. Now, if you list it right now, don't expect top dollar. Now that summer vacation time is over, many people are now focusing on getting their kids back to school, work, Fall travel, and maybe college football (ha!) etc. etc. Seriously, most people dump their cars in the fall and so the market will provide plenty supply of cars which in turns means you might not get top dollar if you list it now. Wait to early spring.
Gary, not sure if you've read the post that started this exchange, but the guy that originally made the back-handed comment is indeed a RL moderator. Shame they allow someone with such little RL experience (account started in 2020) and with a history of being antagonistic continue to be a "RL community team" moderator.
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wheres a moderator when you need one... get back on thread or take it private.
Gary, not sure if you've read the post that started this exchange, but the guy that originally made the back-handed comment is indeed a RL moderator. Shame they allow someone with such little RL experience (account started in 2020) and with a history of being antagonistic continue to be a "RL community team" moderator.
Zuff, the problem is when two people get into a pi**ing match over details like this it detracts from the original post and therefore just puts people off, someone even commented this is why i sold my Porsche the forum isn't what it used to be..
this isn't a Mustang forum, you guys are not kids, sometimes just saying nothing is the best action.. honestly i even hesitated to engage with you because the way you write your posts is aggressive sounding.
On the matter of XAA versus dealer installed versus self installed versus aftermarket.. to some buyers the distinction between these methods matters... so if a buyer wants XAA from the factory that's up to them, if someone just wants the looks then they can seek out an alternative, i am hoping that XAA cars will be slightly more desirable because that's what i have Hal .....in the end they are all good cars its horses for courses as my ol Dad used to say.
That comment was from David, (the gentlemen that owned the nice Red aero) and directed towards Brontosaurus because he rattled on about why he didn't think his car was an OEM aerokit.
That's the unfortunate thing about written communications - i.e. semantics. While most people don't mean to sound threatening or "aggressive", it can come across that way. Hence, the birth of emojis.
I do apologize if I've ever given you that impressive. My reason for questioning Brontosaurus was because I feel he was off base by saying David's car's was not OEM aerokit. He could have nice and said he was speaking about factory installed aerokit cars with the XAA option code, but he didn't and chose to be rude by saying, "S
uggest you learn to read an option code sticker
". And because he is a moderator, I expect better from them. Much is given, much is expected.
Think about it Gary. What if you walked into a retail store and had a question about a product and the salesperson says, "You need to learn to read a brochure!" How would you respond? Would you say nothing and just walk out?
IMHO, while the general rule applies that if a car retains all it's factory options and is completely sold stock with low miles, it should bring more at auction than a highly molested car with lots of cheap add-ons and high miles. Therefore, I agree with Brontosaurus on that point that if a Porsche 996 is completely stock with a factory installed XAA aerokit option, it should do better at auction than an aerokit that's been added after the fact. Partly because buyers question the quality of the install if it was installed by the owner vs. a factory install option.
I mean, I would easily pay 30k for that, but primarily because of the color.
I have extreme regrets about not buying this car
bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-porsche-911-turbo-34/
I had a brain aneurysm trying to figure out how my original thread about my C4S with not a hint of an aerokit morphed into a full blown handbag throwing session about C2 XAA optioned cars.
Nothing beats a good RL rabbit hole.
I really would love to buy OP's car and do videos comparing and contrasting it to my stock 4s, but lack of garage space prevents it. Car must be a blast to drive!
How bout we all bury the hatchet and meet up for some good Waffle House food? Nothing like good heart clogging fun... greasy food, toothless waitresses, and Porsche talk!
Bash, looks good. If you are going down the sale route, get a good detail guy to shine up the interior and exterior including headlights, and a good camera guy and you will have a winner. Imho, it's too good of a car to sell.
