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YOUR RESEARCH2003 C4S - 6 speed - seal grey/blk leather - heated seats - 114K mi - $19,750
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the car was well serviced and i have a list from shop that worked on the car - the owner of the shop couldn't give me the records but gave me dates/mileage and services performed below - **the car is running on it's original IMS bearing - when i spoke to the shop owner he explained that there was never a reason to replace it as it was checked when clutch was replaced and never any play.
2003 C4S - 6 speed - seal grey/blk leather - heated seats - 114K mi - $19,750
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the car was well serviced and i have a list from shop that worked on the car - the owner of the shop couldn't give me the records but gave me dates/mileage and services performed below - **the car is running on it's original IMS bearing - when i spoke to the shop owner he explained that there was never a reason to replace it as it was checked when clutch was replaced and never any play.
2003 C4S - 6 speed - seal grey/blk leather - heated seats - 114K mi - $19,750
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clutch replaced at 90K miles - not again at 95K - only replaced 1x
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the car was well serviced and i have a list from shop that worked on the car - the owner of the shop couldn't give me the records but gave me dates/mileage and services performed below - **the car is running on it's original IMS bearing - when i spoke to the shop owner he explained that there was never a reason to replace it as it was checked when clutch was replaced and never any play.
2003 C4S - 6 speed - seal grey/blk leather - heated seats - 114K mi - $19,750
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the car was well serviced and i have a list from shop that worked on the car - the owner of the shop couldn't give me the records but gave me dates/mileage and services performed below - **the car is running on it's original IMS bearing - when i spoke to the shop owner he explained that there was never a reason to replace it as it was checked when clutch was replaced and never any play.
2003 C4S - 6 speed - seal grey/blk leather - heated seats - 114K mi - $19,750
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all,
so a 30' diesel Luhrs boat has come on the market close to my home and i must have it.
i sold my other 03 C4S to "thin_concrete" not long ago and missed it so much that i replaced it with my current C4S 2 months ago that i found in california.
i know it all sounds nuts but that's life - i've been known to sell my later model porsches after only owning them a short time but i do love the hunt. it's not like i won't be able to find another C4S - unlike my 359 and early 911
**located in seattle wa. - this is a great car for anyone looking for a C4S at a really great price.
since the photos are so large and i can't figure out how to minimize them.
i can email them directly to you -
please contact me directly - no PM's:
[email removed]
i believe in being totally upfront and forthright in my description - the only reason i purchased this car was i missed mine so much - this boat is a rare bird and extremely hard to find.
this is a california car first owned by a doctor and then i purchased from previous owner was a sacramento calif police officer who is also a 356 owner - we bonded well! he retired and is having health issues.
this C4S is a great example - vin#WP0AA29923S623580 - clear/clean title in my name - seal grey/full black leather with heated seats and the rear wiper - very presentable and looks beautiful - this car runs and drives like new - it does have some imperfections on the body as follows:
-carfax showed minor accident in 2004 -
front bumper was backed into in parking lot and never repaired - very small blemish as seen in photo - it is there but i wouldn't touch it.
also some small scratches and a few tiny tiny dings here and there from normal wear which are very hard to notice unless pointed out.
the very lower rear plastic inner fender well cap has a crack - again very hard to notice unless on a lift. small scratches under rear license plate. i also just notice that the passengers side rear seat bottom pad has some cracking - i always keep the rear seat backs in the down position and only noticed this recently.
the car was well serviced and i have a list from shop that worked on the car - the owner of the shop couldn't give me the records but gave me dates/mileage and services performed below - **the car is running on it's original IMS bearing - when i spoke to the shop owner he explained that there was never a reason to replace it as it was checked when clutch was replaced and never any play. the car runs like it is new.
service history from Franks German Auto in Sacramento Calif:
- 3/12/2010 75,182 - Full 75K service
- 10/25/2010 82,500 - Oil service
- 3/7/11 - Ignition switch replacement
- 9/29/11 - 90K - Full service, clutch install & replace rms
- 10/4/11 - 90,828 - Reseal front differential output shaft seals
- 12/7/11 - 91,143 - Replaced battery
- 5/11/12 - 95,703 - water pump, Thermostate, coolant flush, oil change, Charge A/C
- 12/03/12 - 104,791 - 105K full service
- 2/13/13 - 106,939 - Reset throttle adaptations
- 1/30/14 - 112,051 - Oil service, replace all wipers, replace water pump, replace outer cv boots(R&L), replace sensor links for ride height sensors
- 3/19/15 - 113,405 - Oil service, brake fluid flush, replace 1 key fob
- 3/27/15 - 4 New michelin tires and new OEM german windshied due to rock chip in drivers vision.
- all 4 wheels refinished by PO 3 months ago
i have both keys, original owners manuals in it's leather pouch, all tools/spare tire,etc are intact and never used. includes really nice porsche car cover too.
- if you feel uncomfortable driving on the original IMS bearing, spend the $1600 and replace it - you'll still be in the car less than $22K - that math should make any buyer feel happy!
$19,750 firm - if anyone questions my integrity please PM thin_concrete and he can tell you how are car deal went not long ago
**car can be shipped to calif for about $650 open carrier
all the best!
So pretty what a great deal. But where is the phone holder I just don't understand where the hell you keep your phone.
Seriously very good looking car. Obviously well maintained. Price is a steal! Good luck
Seems like a nice car Goovzilla, and I think you will sell it pretty easily at less than 20K, even with 114K miles.
If I was in the market for this, I would be very interested.
Regarding the maintenance log, I'm curious about why the clutch and RMS needed to be replaced twice in less than 10K miles, and likewise the water pump??
Made me also wonder if the Maintenance records are legit... Also not the best of deals for a car with 114,000 miles on it no matter what mods have been added. Not saying it is over priced, just saying there are a lot un-modded miles cars out there for same money. Years to me doesnt matter. Miles do. The year in this case gets squashed because of the milage.
Boy that was a record time. Dejavu all over again. Best of luck.
BTW, your gonna have to knock it down some due to the original pumpkins which seriously devalues this car.
i must say you sound pretty clueless - if you're going to crap on someones for sale post at least come across somewhat educated - maybe if you spelled "mileage" properly and made some sense i would have given you some credit, but find me a sub $20K C4S in this condition and i'll buy it for you - 114K is nothing on these cars especially well serviced examples
remember this isn't a run of the mill narrow body - this is a C4S which puts it in a different category
Man, take it easy on the non-native speaker.
I too would be all over that car if I had a slot in the garage open. Good luck. See you in a few months when you buy the next one.
Heh - you can't sell to him unless you "accidentally" give him the title to a '71 Winnebago.
Excellent price. Agree on the mileage: for that price point, who cares? Replace the IMS, drive it another 85,000, and sell it for $18,000.
Heck, if I had the garage space, I'd buy it as a spare for when my '03 C4S is dirty!
GLWS. Great opportunity.
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This car won't last through the weekend.
gnat - Buy this car and rid yourself of your kcattorney directed anger!!
I had an absolutely seamless and straightforward transaction when I bought groove's previous 4S. The car was exactly as described and he couldn't have been more helpful. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another car from him.
If anyone needs any additional information, don't hesitate to PM me.
I'd wish you luck but at that price you won't need it. Why such a low price? Even considering miles and age this was an 80K car when it was new. What comps are you using?
Cap'n you need to get back into a 4S.
Did I say it was overpriced.? Oh so it's worth it because it has a wide body even with 114000 miles on it. Somewhat educated???. So now we are showing our education certificates? Buying a 996 in the first place puts you in a higher education status to a guy who buys a 997? You my friend are looking at getting a deal. No matter what mileage is on the car. It's priced right because of the mileage. Oh and YOU giving me credit. There's a laugh. BTW I would'nt have you buy me anything. I am very pleased with what I have thanks. A 1999 rear wheel drive convertible with matching hard top. In my opinion the best of the 996 models for obvious reasons. I take the so called service records with a pinch of salt. The seller can't even get those correct.
thanks! i paid what i am selling it for - i could probably get $2K more but i prefer it sell and me not have to haggle with a buyer. this will be a great car for someone who wants to experience a nice C4S and doesn't have the $28K+ for a lower mileage example.
i've owned 2 narrow bodies(99 & 01) and 2 C4S's both 2003.
of course i drive them but as many RL's know i really like the hunt
years ago my hobby was collecting/restoring 356's that i would find in california - i live in seattle and my photography studio was in SF calif. back then you could find nice 356 drivers for $5-$7K.
my 1959 super sunroof, which i found in san rafael 25 years ago, i had restored in ukiah calif. - fellow named dink farmer is one of the best painters on earth.
i miss those days but have enjoyed my 356 which i keep at our place in southeast florida in our climate controlled garage.
I like your style. I do the same regarding resale of personal goods. Pass it on to the next guy at same price is a good practice. Doing business is another story... Cheers.
You seriously sound like you have no idea what your talking about.
At some pone point you (Now) wave the white flag and move on, frankly speaking your quickly loosing credibility at this forum.
This is a really good deal and most of rennlist has recognized it except you.
With wicked pleasure we would all be destroying this thread otherwise.
Anyway move along, nothing else to see here
I lose a little more credibility on this forum for speaking my mind. Other posters suck each others ***** by not speaking theirs. I don't give a toss about what posters think of my comments. REALLY. Sheep to the slaughter.
Hey gnat and Valkuri, "Kiss my ****!"
Did I get that right Hurdi?
Most fun "for sale" thread ever.
Has anybody bought this car yet? If no, why the hell not? Everybody but Hurdi thinks it's a fantastic deal - which equates to 100% confirmation.
BTW, Groov, for your next Porsche, would you mind picking up a guards red or speed yellow 996tt with a 6 speed and black interior?
According to Groovy (really great guy) there are a couple of other people talking to him too. I have a guy local that I want to put eyes on it for me, but he's tied up until late this week. Told Groovy to make the deal if the others get there first, it's either meant to be or not. We'll see
If it is meant to be, anyone have suggestions about what the hell I should do with 3 Porsche's and no garage?
You of all people know Groovy's number so you could have a matching set
He might even be willing to budge a little and give you a frequent buyer discount
fazal - i just cut the top off with my sawzall - don't worry i used the metal blade so nice and smooth
you have my banking info - i'll look for the deposit tomorrow
gnat(david)is first in line - i have 3 others interested, one of which is a local person that i just got off the phone with.
i like to be fair and gnat gets first crack at it - if gnat's guy has not looked at it by monday next week, local fellow brad is next in line
thanks to all for your kind remarks.
barn - we have a beach house on a private island about 30 minutes n of seattle - great funky little place we've owned for sometime - purchased from an estate and was a fixer.
years ago i restored this 28' uniflite salty dog(1st photo) - single diesel with bow thruster and it came in handy for cruising as well as taking materials to work on the house
i sold the salty dog 6 yrs ago because we wanted something smaller to beach - outboard was really the only answer so i got the 18' bell boy in next photo - cool deco color and great little runabout
me and wife would now like to cruise a bit as well as the ability to beach boat - the 30' luhrs alura has a keel which protects the prop when beached - mainship makes an identical boat but BOTH are extremely hard to find on the west coast - 100's for sale on east coast and mexico.
guy who owns the boat is currently in alaska and can't do a deal until he returns - my wife is restricting my toy allotment so porsche must go since it's #3 - of course after seversal dinners out and my cunning ways i'll be back in a C4S or turbo soon
Don't take it personally, kc: I come from a family full of lawyers, so it's like family dinner conversation, for me...
Groovzilla, there was another string wherein the OP was looking at a C4s versus a C2. Hope he has PMd you, as your car seems a better opportunity for him than what else he's considering.
since "ignat" requested i show the car to other perspective buyers (since his friend who lives in seattle couldn't look at car until later this week) second in line was local buyer/RL member "studlee" who purchased the porsche C4S last night.
thanks for everyone's interest.
At least part of that was due to me. He was being a standup guy and giving me first dibs since I got to him first. Once I knew I couldn't get my friend over there (just wanted to make sure it sounded as good as it looks) until later this week I told him to take another offer if it could be closed sooner. He still persisted until (I'm guessing) I sent him another mail last night after he posted that he had the local buyer if I fell through.
Groovy is indeed a great guy to deal with and I'm sorry we couldn't do business. Sounds like studlee will actually enjoy the car for what it is while I wanted it for it's price and was going to have to figure out what to do with it once I got it home. It would have been loved and enjoyed, but not enough (our current one only sees about 30 miles a week on a good week). I'm glad it appears to be going to a good home.
Groove, you like big boats and Porsches, good combination. Here are some of my smaller boats, one that I made . Fast sale for you, congrats. Now go buy that boat.
Don't forget to post a pic on "show your seal grey" thread. LOL
Just make sure you do something different to it like add fuzzy dice or Porsche crest valve stems before as we don't wanna see another stock 996.
hey there was a 1 liter bottle of perrier water in that bag too - and what about the sliced fruit?? and there was also the toll$ under the passengers seat
Zero Stress! I think he got a dinner out of it as well, not just a sandwich and toll money.
Seriously though nice deal, great looking car and good luck.
actually i had to give him date money...so he can take his wife out to sushi.
safe in my garage now. i will be registering the car on friday and will take
'new 996 to me" pics =)
This car seems good condition at good price. I pay you full price today with casher check. Casher check is $5,000 more than you price. Deposit casher check in you account and wire transfer me back $5,000. Then we arrange my shipper to pick.
We also regret to inform you that your great great aunt passed away in zimbowee. Her will indicates your her only surviving relative and the primary beneficiary of her estate. Once you send my $19,470 to cover attorney and notary fees I can release your $26,432,877.
Just let me know when your ready to make a wire transfer!
Please to needing social securities number and account number for totally honest and not scamming at all deposit for I builds trust with you, and then transaction will takes place.
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