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But, what if its the IMS chain guide?

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YOUR RESEARCHBut, what if its the IMS chain guide?

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Use cam tensioner pads

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Especially when you are comparing them to used cam tensioner pads.

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?
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Check ims chain guide

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How can I check the IMS chain guide for wear?

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How can I check the IMS chain guide for wear?

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?

Check with the engine in the car

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Can this tensioner be checked with the engine in the car?

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?

Repair of the chain guides

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I ask because I am having my engine bore scoped next week, and I might be looking at a repair of the chain guides that drive the IMS and cams.

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?
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Check ims chain guide

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Suggestion · Original poster

How can I check the IMS chain guide for wear?

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?

Check with the engine in the car

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Can this tensioner be checked with the engine in the car?

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?

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I ask because I am having my engine bore scoped next week, and I might be looking at a repair of the chain guides that drive the IMS and cams.

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?

Use cam tensioner pads

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Especially when you are comparing them to used cam tensioner pads.

But, what if its the IMS chain guide?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

01 996 C2 Manual Oil pan revealed some brown plastic bits and some metal shavings so I set to tear down the engine in search of the culprit. I see some good wear and tear on the variocam guides but not as much on the left and right bank guides. That leaves 1 guide remaining. How can I check the IMS chain guide for wear? Is it also doodoo brown like the others or a different color? Thanks in advance.

POST 2Original post

If you can, post some pictures of what was in the oil pan and i'm sure you will get answers from some very knowledgeable folks. Best of luck

POST 4Original post

Only the variocam pads are light brown, everything else that the chains touch are black.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 17138447

This is not always the case! I am currently doing chain guides on my 04 966.2 and both lower guides on each bank are brown. Both uppers and the IMS are black.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 17138476

Ok, I should have added that what I wrote was for the 3.4L. Thought that was pretty obvious since the OP is talking about a 3.4L engine.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 17132748

If you unscrew & remove the tensioner right behind where it's located you can see it. Might need a inspection scope to see better. The tensioner is specific to that location & be sure it is the new improved version with the preload spring.

POST 8Original post

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Can this tensioner be checked with the engine in the car? I ask because I am having my engine bore scoped next week, and I might be looking at a repair of the chain guides that drive the IMS and cams. I�m having the bores scoped, not because I think I have bore scoring, but because I need to evaluate whether or not to rebuild the whole engine or just repair it.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 17138447

On my 1999 3.4, the worn chain guides I removed and the new ones I will put in are brown...uppers and lowers. Only my IMS guide is black in my engine.

POST 10Original post

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What colour were the chain ramps?

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 17143416

Brown. See pic of chain guide and the black IMS chain guide.

POST 12Original post

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I did on my Boxster, not sure about 996. I would think a small bore scope would work.

POST 13Original post

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The improved parts are brown nylon & alot more durable.

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 17143675

When they age, they turn black just like the intermediate shaft one. The cam pads on the other hand are almost white when new and they turn brown when the get old.

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 17145735

The chain rails do not really get black like the IMS chain guide...they do darken but it's not black.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 17145787

Unless you have the intermediate shaft chain guide sitting next to it, they look black. Especially when you are comparing them to used cam tensioner pads. The debris that falls into the sump will have either really dark (black) pieces or lighter brown looking ones. It is very difficult to tell the difference between the intermediate shaft chain guide and the rails bits but it is pretty easy to tell if it's a cam tensioner pad debris or not.

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