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I test drove that yellow I believe 1990 corrado and the coolest thing about it was the spoiler deploying.
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Anyway after the test drive I was completely unimpressed.
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I test drove that yellow I believe 1990 corrado and the coolest thing about it was the spoiler deploying.
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It gives me a quick diagnostics that then tells me what to test with my scope.
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I sold my car after a month of trying. Thanks for all the help everyone over the years.
I�m taking some time off from car stuff. I�ve decided if I come back, I�m getting out of Porsche and going 80�s. Not sure what but anything pre OBD, simpler and with cheaper parts is looking good right now. Something with less repercussion if I screw up while tinkering with.
Anyhow,Best of luck everyone.
Had those dreams, too. Then you consider that you are giving up on performance, handling, comfort (A/C and heat), rustproofing, parts availability, and
safety
. At that point I start thinking about how good I really have it, despite OBD and the associated electronics that make working on them a pain.
Sorry to hear you are taking a break from cars, but when you are ready to jump back in you don't have to leave Porsche to go 80s and you don't need to spend a fortune either. 944/951s are tons of fun, affordable, and totally 80s
For what its worth though, I think 80s electronics tend to be worse to work on. They can be very complicated with no diagnostics. I had an issue on my 951 that I spent probably 50+ hours trying to track down, and 944 specialists spent about 4 hours on, that I could have solved in about 5 minutes with a Durametric if it was on my 996
60s and 70s with carbs will always be my favorite to work on, so much simpler. I honestly thought I would never buy an EFI car, and probably wouldn't have if I didn't get into Porsche.
VW GTI/Mustang GT/other
i have to think about it. I like tinkering and I�m getting more aware of my spending as I get older. I don�t think Porsche is a good fit for me anymore. It�s tough because I�ve been a Porsche fan since the 70�s. When I look at replacements, I stop at 986�s and 944�s and then catch myself and move on. Same with BMW�s.
Yup, giving up a lot of performance. Fortunately, I�m not a fast driver so that won�t be an issue.
Better hurry if you want a Mustang. Fox bodies are getting hot.
My thoughts have been drifting more towards "out and out toy". Like a Lotus/Catherham 7.
I actually prefer OBDII.
It gives me a quick diagnostics that then tells me what to test with my scope.
Although if you’re good with an oscilloscope you don’t need OBDII, but it does speed up diagnostic work.
Unfortunately I deal with diagnosing lots of pre-OBD vehicles.
Lots of my clients can’t find shops that will diagnose pre-OBD vehicles so the problems get worse until someone tells them about me and my group.
Not to totally derail this thread, but it's funny you say that. My 951 is currently sharing a garage with my dad's '83 Celica Supra P-Type. Another would recommend car from the 80s. Not as sporty or fast as even an NA 944, but fun none the less. Outside of the basic Toyota stuff (i.e. engine/tranny) parts are unobtanium though. It was even easier finding parts for my Opel GT than it is to find parts for this car for my dad. Mechanically the 5M-GE is bulletproof though.
I only have this horrible pic:
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Only problem with these 80’s cars is parts are getting tough to get my e30 needed a water pump I bought one 10years ago from factory for 165 I just paid 585 and bought the last one on hand any plastic need is getting impossible to find then there’s finding a tech who hasn’t retired
That is one of the problems with the love of vintage cars. Parts can be a crap shoot and you will need! Cars that are 30+ years old really start deteriorating. Everything rubber and plastic goes to hell and these are the harder to get parts because they are not the normal wear and tear parts. Entropy never, never stops.
I've had a long string of 944s and they are definitely fun and relatively easy/inexpensive to maintain. At least that was how it was in the 1990s.
I love the 928, but they are more maintenance than a 944 and not a good choice. They also seem to be expensive on the used market.
You guys ought to give a VW Corrado a try... parts cost like a Porsche, reliability like an Alfa, performance like a Tercel. But you will be the only one at a cars and coffee.
@Argeo, why stop at the 80's? Go all the way to the 60's or the 50's. The old British cars are fun to work on and parts aren't terribly expensive (depending on the car, the Sprite is dirt cheap compared to Porsche). And they are so under powered you get to have fun going slow! It's a totally different, more visceral experience than a 996.
If you can find a nice chrome bumper MGB, they are a lot of fun, super easy to work on, and parts are easy to find (Moss Motors still offers almost everything for them). The Chrome bumpers are up to 1974.5 model years. They look better, but also have more power. Just a thought. I had mine before I went with my 986S and now my 996. Fun, cheap cars to own and run.
Yeah, it was a blast to drive. It did get a lot more attention than I am use to or expected. The car only had 95 hp, but it was plenty of fun and felt fast enough with it being so small. They actually have a supercharger kit for them as well. My car did not have the electronic overdrive, but it never bothered me. Still miss that car. Although I do appreciate having a power top now, after getting caught in a surprise fast moving rain storm in that car with my wife one time :-/
I can attest to this as well. MGBs are another fun and affordable car especially if you want a convertible. They are very simple/easy to work on too. I just sold my rubber bumper a couple weeks ago.
I just sold my 951 (for a nice profit) and I am happy that I will never have to troubleshoot it again. I do really enjoy it, but that car was like an Elephant, you could only eat it one bit at a time.
I will miss it though, was just such a pristine example.
you must be talking about the super charged car. I was going to buy one after I graduated with my masters in engineering. Had a job with Conoco making $45k a year and yes Conoco was moving me with two cars from Lubbock (Texas Tech) to the center of civilization of the universe Ponca City Oklahoma. So I went to the dealership in my black scirocco 16v mildly modified. I test drove that yellow I believe 1990 corrado and the coolest thing about it was the spoiler deploying. Anyway after the test drive I was completely unimpressed. Vuola enter the VR6 and that was a completely different car I had a 93 emerald green metallic. Never had an issue with that car. I tracked it and quarter miled it doing bracket racing, that car never let me down. At one point in time I had the green corrado vr6, the darkar yellow 95-96 M3 coupe, the r�flex silver 2004 HPA twin turbo R32 and my daily driver a 1984 limousine 745i turbo (that car was like a boat), I looked like a g�nster because I had to wear suit and ties everyday and I was always out entertaining guys from all over the world Conoco on Dairy Ashford. my office overlooked a lake, best office I ever had in my life. Conoco was owned by DuPont at that time and was super strict old fashioned we didn�t even had casual until we were out of the office. You could smoke on plaines, flights longer than 6 hours first class, DuPont only approved hotels. Entertaining at Nudy clubs was allowed, employees couldn�t have piercing or visible tattoos. Guess what the world has changed.
Old cars are fun. Should have this one back on the road with a new clutch later today. Parts are readily available.
I�m talking about the one on the left.
Paul, what a great looking car. Your elephant analogy is funny but true. Still got a bunch of buddies that have their 944 turbos and 944 S' and they still remain competitive on the track 30+ years later.
I had one of the very first G60's in the US. That car was OK because it was new and under warranty. When it was stolen I replaced it with a 93+ VR6 which I still have as my daily driver, now with 300k miles on it. The first 150k miles were not great for reliability. Since then it's been good. I have had at least 8 other Corrados during the years, have 3 right now. Friday two different guys offered to buy the Corrado that I was driving. Parts availability is abysmal, I had to import 15 windshields from Belgium because I could not find any in the US.
My previous Celica/Supras are why I have a 996 now. I had an '82 Mk I (I think) Celica/Supra for about a year. I got a better job and moved into a 12 year old 86.5 Mk II Supra that I had bought off a newly divorced Toyota dealer mechanic who had just rebuilt the engine. I loved the thing. I had it for 3 years and 50K miles. The head gasket (their Achilles heel) blew on me. I didn't want to spend the $$ to fix it and all the other issues that were starting to crop up so I sold it as a roller and bought a new 2000 Celica GTS. It was OK but not as fun as the Supra. I was NOT ready to sell that Supra and it left a hole in the automotive chamber of my heart. When I was ready to buy a fun car, the Mk IV and the new Mk V Supras were just too expensive and the 996 is what I landed on.
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