Oversteer on track in a 996 :)

Put together a vid of some oversteer/corrections, small drifts in a 996 Carrera on track. It was a lot of fun to drive it, and fun to watch it too! You Tube

My favorite kinds of car videos to watch. Great steering input. You look comfortable when the car loses grip. I'm trying to work on that. I don't like the feeling of loss of traction. I want to spend more time on a skidpad.

From the looks of you did a nice job controlling it, but also it looks like it’s more of the right handers you have it happening with. Maybe pushing harder going right than left.

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+1. nice video

Do you have a limited slip differential?

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Thank you, I know the feeling. I play with mountain bikes (non motorized variety) in the dirt and I think the sliding sensation at the limit is very similar. I did spend quite a bit of time on the skidpad, and prior to that auto-x. Like anything else, you get used to it. I think to truly be relaxed and effective, it needs to become muscle memory, which takes a lot of time. Fair point! I do think I am more comfortable with right handers. This is why I tend to practice left handers on the skidpad. Most tracks run clockwise in North America. The footage is from CMP which only has 2 right hand turns (one of them is a multi apex one, though my point remains)! I wish, the 996 chassis does not really need it with "only" 320hp in my opinion but it can be helpful. Breakaway is a bit more progressive with an LSD but consequently it can cause more understeer on corner exit. I think the biggest contribution of an LSD for driving on track is actually under heavy braking.

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Here's a skidpad session @VIR. I used to go do these every chance I could get when there was a track event and they were open. You Tube

Very nice! I love VIR. My favorite track! My home track is Summit Point. Of all the DEs I've participated in, only one included the skidpad at the end of Main's Turn 1. VIR's skidpad looks better. I prefer to work on higher MPH drifts. Those are the ones I'm most uncomfortable with. I have an LSD in my 996 so I'm curious what that feels like as well. Thank for sharing!

So, my car has the defeatable PSM, which still has the e-LSD function. It's not as good as a mechanical LSD by any stretch, but it keeps you from spinning only the inside tire on corner exit. BTW, if you are at VIR feel free to flag me down, happy to give you a ride. We're going to CMP in a couple of months if you go down there btw.

Is your car a tip or m/t? I was trying to see in video where you were down and up shifting?

Great vid but spend the time with a good instructor You'll will be amazed

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Car is a manual, I downshift in the braking zones. May not be particularly noticeable in the video from that angle. I might make a video showing my feet as students are often asking about shifting. Sadly I feel it will become one of those "old timey" things as time goes on. I have been an instructor for ~20 years with multiple clubs. Fellow instructors/racers, as well as students are always welcome in the passenger seat. I regularly ride with other instructors/racers as well. I am generally quite happy with my pace and control, but another set of eyes never hurts, your input would be welcome as well.

While I'm reading over this, I should clarify about the e-LSD. I do not think a 996 Carrera needs an LSD, and in fact I think it only makes a significant difference under threshold braking. In fact I think even a 996 turbo is usually OK with it's open diff in near stock form. The e-LSD works OK, but it is not a substitute for a mechanical clutch type LSD for track.

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If you posted this video in The Racing & Drivers Education Forum, you�d get plenty of feedback. The biggest improvement would to stop sawing at the wheel. You actually don�t want oversteer, as it�s slower than just having a proper tire slip angle. Smooth is fast, and once you start to turn in, keep it there, there is no need to try to turn more, then less, then more again.

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Great advice there. �Quiet hands� make for low lap times, but easier said than done. Thanks for sharing the vid, you look confident and competent, the biggest issue with track experience is, you never have enough. You�re probably tons better than before, but the focus is always on getting better. As for skid pads, I just had to share my buddy�s first go at the Porsche High Performance driving experience a while back. He totally blew it, but stuck the landing, lol. I on the other hand took first place out of the 77 participants... because I am the stig. You Tube

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Will do on the driving forum, thanks Yeah I wonder about the sawing. With these long high speed sweepers on a wet track, I want to get back to inside the turn quickly to have more room. It probably is costing time as you said. I posted an entire session at CMP where you can see I am not particularly active with the wheel when there isn't tons of oversteer. I prefer a small and constant slip angle, but these are clips of wider angles and subsequent shenanigans. My thought is if you're on the floor by the apex and require some (hopefully small and quick) steering correction occasionally, you are probably doing alright. That was fun to watch! Skidpad videos are particularly funny because the viewer has no idea where the pad is shaved and has a fraction of the grip present at other points...