Will you "jump ship?"

I've seen a lot of reviews on the new 992. when this new iteration of the 911 gets as old (and maybe as depreciated) as our beloved 996, will you jump ship and get one ? Not sure when, but at some point 911s transitioned from sports car to supercar. The new 992 Turbo S has 255 series front tires, my base C2 doesn't even have that at the rear. I can't imagine replacing those every, what 20k miles ?

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Currently I have no interest in anything past the 997. Everything starts getting big and bloated, no knock on performance just preference in size.

I truly enjoy the analog nature of my 996. Now while all the new fangled electronic stuff in newer cars is cool, it's not for me. I hate all those "nanny" devices. It's like all of a sudden, we the people have forgotten how to drive cars. Wife's Mini monitors every single light bulb every time it is started. Drives me crazy when a bulb goes out and I have to spend an hour checking all the lights, even the license plate lights.

Yeah, I would. I had a 3.2 Carrera when the 996 was the newest kid on the block. In 5-10 years, the 991 will be a similar car comparison. That�s a great car, and will probably still be quite analog in comparison to what might be available them. Real ICE engine, manual transmission! The 992 is a little different. It�s a turbocharged engine, and it�s quite fast. The 992S is only taking 2.9 seconds from 0-60. It is getting very good reviews, looks good...it�s a 911. Only reason to not get one is if they are too expensive, have some major design flaw, etc.

By the time the 992 gets to be cheap enough to replace my 996, I'll almost be too old to be driving. I'm more likely to jump more on board by buying a second 9x6.

Probably not, but if I could upgrade some day, then it would be a 997.2 C4S with PDK (if it has appropriate colors and other options).

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My feelings exactly.

I almost bought a brand new 991 in 2013. Put the deposit down and everything. I just couldn't fall in love with it. I backed out of the deal and I never once regretted it. A mint car on my list of favorites from the 80's and 90's are more desirable to me. I don't see myself buying a newer car after about 2004.

I agree with the too big, too controlled, too many bells and whistles. Faster ok but no longer a true "sports car". I don't get why Porsche is going that way. I guess it is to stay attractive to the younger crowd. Personally I think they are killing a good car.

It�s funny to hear the newer 911 generation cars being referred to as too big. I remember when the 996 came out and I was driving my 964 and at that time I too thought the �newer� generation of 911 (In this case the 996) as too big and I would never get one. I started with a 73T, went to an 80SC, the 90 964 and now drive an 03 C4S. The car I miss the most is the 73 but I love my current ride as a great all around sports car. It doesn�t hurt that it has a 3.8 FSI motor in the back! It�s definitely a keeper, so to keep with the topic of the thread, I probably won�t �jump ship� any time soon.

When I can put a 997.2 GTS in the garage for half the cost of a 992S? Don’t need to get to a red light one second quicker. The 992S is a very capable car. Last December I drove a 991 GTS then a 992S. The 992 is really, really fast and effortlessly smooth on the track. I enjoyed the 991 more, though. I prefer the looks, smaller dimensions and more visceral dynamics of the 997.2 to pretty much anything else, outside of maybe a Ferrari. 360. Red, please.

I hope to go back to air cooled at some point.

991 Carrera “T” in a heartbeat.

in my opinion, "jumping ship" means buying a camaro or mustang, not another Porsche

You guys all sound like a bunch of old curmudgeons 😜 Why I remember the good old days when you still had to crank your windows down. Those new fangled electric windows won't last...

I get a strong sense of deja vu reading this thread...where have I heard this line of reasoning before??? Someday, when every new car is powered by some newfangled power source and completely driven by computers, we will all be waxing nostalgic of the "brilliant and involving driver's dream" 992.

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I wish all my cars still had crank windows!

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since i had to wait till i was in my late 60�s to afford my dream car, 991.1S, no plans to replace it. Kids married, grandkids in college and no $$ worries. I really fancy the C8, I�ve had a few vettes and enjoyed them, but fully committed to my Porsche. Funny someone mentioned crank windows. Have a 2008 Jeep Wrangler in the desert. Was doing a little off road with 2 grandkids when i noticed Sydney looking at her door in a funny way. Grandpa, how do you open the window? Its a crank window honey. But, how does it work???

In my experience, the newer the 911, the better the car. My buddy took delivery of one of the first 992�s (that we both spec�d) and immediately planned a trip to the Tail Of The Dragon. It�s a wonderful car and I�d love to have one. Sure it�s bigger, does not feel analog at all and doesn�t have the charm of the older cars, but if you wanna go fast (not just in a straight line), my time spent with it thus far reinforced the notion that a newer 911 the more impressive the experience. In a perfect world, I�d have both. Now I just need to make a whole bunch of money!

Sure. As soon as I see one for $12,900.

^^This! I doubt we'll ever see the low priced 911 phenomena the the 996 has experienced ever again... So glad I did what I did, when I did it!

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You said it brother. When I was seriously shopping, I could hardly find anything for under $25k. 996s were the only ones close to my budget. Then I stumbled on the car I now own. It was close to home, and the price was just right. Kind of like the Goldilocks of 911s. Now that I have a known good engine, I'm into it for a little over the $25k that I expected to spend.

I just "stumbled" across a local 997.1, manual, seal gray with 102K. Seller wants $24K. Tempting... It would look nice next to my seal gray 996. But I think I'll just stick with my 996 and save the money for an FSI rebuild someday.

Not jump ship but an addition!

I have invested and reinvested in my 996 (3.8 liter LN Nickies, center radiator, Cargraphic exhaust, IMS Solution, et cetera) due to its analog, connected nature. It is exactly what I want and plan to keep. If I add anything, it likely would be a 914/6.

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Interesting, what makes you say that ?

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That my good fellow is the perfect plan!

I got my dream car now and will stay with it until I cannot keep her or me roadworthy. That being said, I do not have the finances that would allow me to jump ship at this point. I only dream every night about a certain black 996 that just happens to be in my driveway

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I'm sure Bill has a well thought-out and supported answer - but I did a little search. Take a look at 1999-2000 911 prices. Compare these against any other 911 - even the later 996s start to climb in "value". https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-...rsche-911-d404

The dichotomy between 98 and 99 is stunning when you see it.

I think a lot of it comes down to whether or not you're a DIY guy. The engine access from the 991 onward is just horrible for someone that does most of their own work. I like the 997 and the 9A1 engine is really nice. I would plan to eventually migrate into a 997.2, but I don't see myself owning any Porsche newer than that unless I stumble into enough money to buy something pretty new and keeping it covered with an extended warranty. Maybe I'm just too old, but I find the electronic extras and interfaces in most newer cars to be more of an annoyance and distraction that offer me things I was never looking for in a car. My mom's 2017 BMW 4-series has more useless crap than I ever imagined was necessary. I'm much happier driving a really well kept 80s or 90s car than anything from the last 10 years.

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Does this include the turbo cars? That would explain the jump in 2001, despite the fact that the 2000 and 2001 cars are not that significantly different. I notice the same pattern in the 993 period, too. The turbo must be included.

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I don't know the answer to that. I spent all of five seconds in my research. One thing to consider is how many turbo cars were built with respect to the rest of the product line. I would guess it is significantly less, but you are right, the price goes up as a result. I played with different model years, but didn't see anything to further breakdown the numbers. I'll bet the information is out there, for those truly interested in the hunt.

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Here is one view of the production numbers for the 996 by year and by the variant models: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...nd-dicing.html

I'm all in on the 'save your money for an FSI rebuild'. I bought the car knowing that the engine would eventually need rebuilding. When researching, it was clear there were very good options to solve the engine life problems. The question is how long it will last before needing it. The price was low enough that even after an expensive rebuild, it would still be lower cost than a turbo of likely unknown condition. If I need a bigger adrenaline kick than the NA engine I'll go ride my bike down a hill at 45 mph.

not me. no interest in current porsches or other makes, in general. i'm staying analog while yelling "get off my grass" at neighborhood kids!

I'd jump ship if I could get a newer 911 for the money I'm OK spending on a car I might drive once or twice a week. You can turn most nannys off, and the performance on some of these things is nuts. I am more likely to rebuild my 996 or move up to a 996 Turbo, given the realities of $$$$$.

I would jump ship, but it probably wouldn't be in another P car. If anything it'd be a jump into F car, preferably a mere 360 with a gated 6 speed. It also really depends on what's available in a realistic price range when the time does come to part with the 996. It's also possible that time may never come at all.

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All of my cars are stuck in the 80s and 90s including my daily. Which is one reason why I like going to the Radwood Carshow, the carshow for cars of the 80s and 90s and where many of the the owners and spectators dress up for that time period. In another 10 years will I need to eventually get a newer daily beater? Who knows.

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I didn't think I wanted a newer Porsche until I drove one of these. $ for $ I'd still go for the 996(xx), but I'd love to have both for different reasons.

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You are joking, but I just KNOW that someday, the window in my 996 won't go up again.

I might be tempted to pick up a 2020 Vette, when they've depreciated a bunch. But I'll still keep the 996. By then the 996 will likely have a FSI engine. If I have to choose, it would be FSI over mid-engined Vette.

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I think the 996 MKII prices in this chart definitely include Turbo, C4S, GT3, and GT2 variants which is the reason for the large jump in prices between the MKI and MK II cars. Comparing apples to apples -- MKI C2 to MKII C2 in similar condition -- there is not such a wide gap in prices. The same holds true for the 993 in this chart. Once premium additions began to be introduced in later years, you see a spike in average prices...