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..must be a 'for-Euro' market only thing...of course anyone can adjust 'baseline' on their self-leveling headlight...
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If you adjust the standard setting upward, it will constantly "level" to that upward position.
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The easiest solution may be simply changing your bulbs.
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My acura has same screws as 996 to set the base level of the headlights.
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If you adjust the standard setting upward, it will constantly "level" to that upward position.
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I'm not arguing that there are cheap HIDs out there these days but most of the kids without budgets are using stock headlamps with halogens that have a blue tint on them.
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Hi all
I have a 1999 C2 that was fully optioned with the HID headlights at the time of its build. I'm sure the headlights were great then, but now, they're not so great... I'd love to be able to retro fit the HID/Xenon units as on the Singer builds, but I'm not sure they'll fit etc.
Does anyone here know of a good update be it LED or HID/Xenon that is a plug & play option for the 996?
Rgd's
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The easiest solution may be simply changing your bulbs. HID bulbs lose intensity as they age and the color temperature changes. HID bulbs that are more than 10 years old will produce less light than new bulbs.
There are some cool retrofit kits available for the 996. Try Pelican Parts and see if there is something there that interests you.
Yeap, first two steps are to polish your housings if they've yellowed and to get new bulbs.
We're still on our original bulbs 16 years in, but while it convinced us that HID was a requirement for all future cars, they just don't hold a candle to the ones in her 07 BMW or my 13 Cayenne. Quite literally a night and day difference.
Just don't drive it enough at night anymore for it to have been a high priority.
The newer HIDs are pretty good at blinding everyone else on the road. They are stronger than the older ones and unless the road is perfectly flat, everyone else is paying for these "night and day difference" HIDs.
Mine is an 03 which I guess are slightly better than the 99 Litronic's but technically vastly inferior to today's headlights....that said, with new Osram CBI bulbs in my lights, I have yet to see anything brighter on the road. As others have said, start with a bulb change. 10 yr. old bulbs probably have half the lumens a new bulb does 3200lms. vs. 1600lms.
Are you sure it's the HIDs you are getting blinded by? All the factory ones I'm familiar with have a leveling system specifically to prevent that.
What I find blinding is the super bright blue tinted halogens people put. Those things are horrible and of course have no functionality to keep them aimed at the road.
the 996.2 lights are actually rather good, (high beam in particular is excellent), but of course condition is key, as-is the alignment.... the newest active LED lights from Porsche/BMW/Benz/Audi/etc are the next step up..
The 'blinding' problem comes from those installing aftermarket HID 'kits' into stock reflector housings(non-projector) and the beam pattern is different from the halogen bulb and strays, plus the colour and lumens amplify the blinding...
Nearly every Accord, Civic, Acura, and Toyota owned by someone under the age of 30 has had HIDs stuffed into the front lights, and of course they don't have any leveling functionality - they just drive around blinding the s**t out of everyone.
OEM HID headlights are required to have auto leveling and/or measures to prevent blinding on coming traffic. You're only getting blinded by the *** holes throwing in $30 HID kits.
They're not HIDs. They're blue colored halogens, which is annoying enough, but the owners often aim the low beams at high beam level.
FWIW, the leveling functionality just ensures that the beams are consistently aimed where they're set to be aimed. If you hit a bump in the road with standard old school halogens, you'll see your beam rise and drop on the road. HID leveling is intended to cancel that out by ensuring that the beam stays on the road where it was intended. As cars lwith HIDs leave the factory, their standard settings should prevent bumps, dips, changes in road conditions from blinding other traffic but it isn't a fail-safe by any means.
Just like halogens, HIDS are also adjustable (often the crank of a **** in the engine bay in many new cars). If you adjust the standard setting upward, it will constantly "level" to that upward position. If that upward position is straight out (read: too high!) then it will (and does) blind the living !@#$ out of oncoming drivers.
-Eric
IIRC, if HID is in a projector it must be leveling, if in a (shielded) reflector housing it does not have to be; focus of beam pattern on on-coming persons
Not sure I've ever seen blue halogen bulbs(at least any that have any effect)...the aftermarket HID kit industry is huge and they sell them EVERYWHERE. Under $100 a kit(bulbs, ballasts, wiring) allows anyone to be a blinding pest....what 'colour' do you want? 3000k? 4300k? how about 12000k?
Wrong again. Ever look at Acura's? The late 90's to late 00 models have projectors and factory HID's without self leveling and some of these models are in projector housing.
Sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't complaining about the drop in retrofits that blind everyone. Was complaining of the EU units in the newer cars that are much brighter than the first gen HIDs. The auto levle system is not fast enough to compensate for bumps and becuase they are a lot brighter than halogens, they blind the crap out of you every time the car hits a bump.
is their still any late 90's Acura's around?
..must be a 'for-Euro' market only thing...of course anyone can adjust 'baseline' on their self-leveling headlight...
Probably not up where you're at as they've probably all rusted to death. L
FWIW, I have both of my cars with self leveling HID, manually adjusted up slightly to compensate for the lowered stance. Wife's '08 MDX is one of those Acura's that have HID projectors without self leveling from the factory.
However I do have a pet peeve of oncoming old farts that flash you because your headlight color is whiter(not necessarily "brighter") and they think you have your high beams on.
Just the other day, I couldn't figure out the logic of an oncoming driver that flashed me most likely because I have LED angel eyes(bmw) and thought I had my high beams on. The ironic thing is they had a new vehicle with LED lights too.
We do have the GT Projectors, Rennlist thread on them
HERE
. That being said, we have a very limited supply left with no ETA on when stock will be back into the catalog. GT-TUR-BLK is the only stock we have left currently.
We have such a problem with aftermarket HID's in stock reflector housings here, you'll never get flashed at for 'hot-rod' alignments on low beams
What is really bad is the new Corolla's/Toyota's/Hyundai/Kia factory HID's, not sure who passed them through...completely blinding to oncoming. The 'dazzle' zone is the on-coming's eyeballs..
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...e/bad/bad.html
http://www.bretl.com/blueheads.htm
I'm telling you, a lot of those bright blue lights in econoboxes are NOT retrofit HIDs. I'm not arguing that there are cheap HIDs out there these days but most of the kids without budgets are using stock headlamps with halogens that have a blue tint on them.
-Eric
