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YOUR RESEARCHHow about this Porsche ........?
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But if it needs items...motor mounts...spark plugs...brake fluid flush....rotors...it would not be out of line to adjust for those costs.
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I take most of the car apart to inspect for damages.
Inspect internals and not just the pretty shiny components
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IIRC this is an actual invasive PPI which is worth a lot more IMO as he is inspecting the internals and not just the pretty shiny components from the outside.
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That being said, I'll go back to what the others said and recommend buying groovzilla's car.
Inspect internals and not just the pretty shiny components
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IIRC this is an actual invasive PPI which is worth a lot more IMO as he is inspecting the internals and not just the pretty shiny components from the outside.
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I am glad that the C4s deal did not work, this Targa is far more interesting and cheaper.
Putting aside the car I thought I bought the other day........
Found this Targa and I think I love the color etc. as does wife.
It does have a ton of miles (117K). Talked to Indy dealer who seems to really know Porsches and who also owns a turbo. This is a one owner car that was a trade in to a Porsche dealer and then auctioned. Not much on carfax.
Price needs to be negotiated and of course PPI. I just turned 71 and don't really care if it might be hard to sell at a later date because of mileage.
Any thoughts appreciated.
http://www.carvenue.net/2003_Porsche..._255698589.veh
Will also need an Indy near Marietta GA for PPI.
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Not sure what rear spoiler that is. Looks good though, IMO. 22K seems a bit steep, but I'm sure the dealer has some room to negotiate. I'd say 18K to 20K. The car looks great!
Make sure the targa works well. It's my understanding that they are rather expensive to repair.
It has a tip transmission. Personally, I think they are great transmissions, but most want a manual. So, that should be in your favor during price negotiation.
Nice car! I'm in Columbia, so bring your new ride this way some day soon!
Yes, price sounds a bit high, especially with the lack of history. That, and the fact that its a Tip, even if that's what you want, give you some negotiating power. I'm guessing dealer has no more than 15k in it, if that. Definitely get ppi, although I can't help you with where to go (unless Jake is an option).
Beautiful car. Perfect color, wheels, and it's a Targa.
As others have said, the downsides are that it's got a lot of miles and it's a Tiptronic. If it checks out, get it for under $ 18-20K and drive happy. Good luck.
Since when is 117k high miles?
I considered my 1986 Bmw high mileage at around 260k when I sold it, but it was barely broken in. When I brought my car to the dealer here, they saw it had over 100k on the clock and said, "wow, you must drive this thing year round".
Is this a Porsche owner thing? Seems to me people don't like putting miles on their P-cars
If you really want the car and are in a position to buy the car, then it may not be worth arguing over $2-3-4k if everything else checks out.
Good luck!
117k on a 2003 is not a ton of miles
Targa's are great and have a opening rear hatch that is very useful. They are also a bit more rare than other models
I bought my 04 Targa with 86k miles and a Tip a year ago for $21k it came with some service records and had been maintained by one of the top indy's in SO Cal
$22k is a little high , $18-20k should be the range
Also those are not turbo look wheels, so the dealer selling it may not know much about Porsche
X2. Normally I don't like Targa's, but that one looks great. It's not everyday that you're going to find one like that. I second having JR check it out.
If you love the car and it passes PPI with a needs nothing report (and I mean needs nothing) then the price is fair. But if it needs items...motor mounts...spark plugs...brake fluid flush....rotors...it would not be out of line to adjust for those costs. As already pointed out, the targa roof should work perfectly and have no rattles. Should be a great car to spend your seventies driving.
Car looks very clean but i also think the price is a lil' high 18-19k seems fair considering the lack of history & as far as the Tip, i would think if your 71 you're probably not wanting a manual anyway! jmo & GL! Keep us informed (also like someone else said i wouldn't let a couple of $$ get in the way if you and the wife both love it).
I can't imagine Jake has time to do a PPI. Plus, I believe Jake's shop is a good 2+ hours drive from Marietta. But surely there's a good Indy in Marietta.
A tippy with 120k miles - $19k ought to buy it no matter the condition. But, it has a lot of curb appeal - I think paying $20k makes perfect sense if it is what you want. After all, it's just numbers in a bank account.
Beautiful car. The price seems a little on the high side for that kind of mileage. Are the maintenance records available? A thorough PPI is in order either way.
Good luck!
Drove the car today and felt fine. Only thing I could find wrong was drivers window did not go down 1/4 inch when opening and closing. He said it would be fixed. The other really minor item was that the shade for roof is electric instead of manual and doesn't work correctly. It chatters when you push close button. Not a big deal to me. Engine looked really well cared for. No hoses etc.looked old etc. It will be PPIed tomorrow. I liked Patrick the dealer who is also a porsche person, he owns a turbo but doesn't drive it on the street very often, says he is almost afraid of it, speeding tix etc. All the cars he had on lot were high end and special.
If you look close at this car it does have some special factory body panels plus the factory spoiler.
We negotiated for awhile and then finally reached an agreement. He actually showed me his receipt from auction and there was not much room.
I am glad that the C4s deal did not work, this Targa is far more interesting and cheaper. By the way I do not believe in Karma, if asked I will say all is chaos.
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PPI mechanic stated he heard a lash noise in differential, one cylinder misfiring in code look, noise in front suspension, both window regulators bad. There was a headlight and side marker out, other small things that really indicated car was never really looked at by a mechanic as seller claimed. The other semi red flag was that this was in a warehouse district and was surrounded by collision and car repair shops, somewhat seedy looking. But for me when I am hot for a car I don't see all that until later retrospect.
Seller also claimed he would take car next day to Porsche dealer to have it looked at. Never heard from him.
My suspicion is that seller buys flashy cars at auction, cleans up somewhat and sells them. OK fit for some buyers but not me.
I am now seriously considering this car. I have seen a recent clean basic dealer PPI. What do you think?
Sorry will send link in a minute.
That's a nice looking base model 997. I'll admit to being relatively 997 ignorant though. 997s from 2005 thru 2008 still have the IMSB that is capable of disintegrating, just like the 996s (albeit a small risk that has been overhyped). So going to a 2006 is no help there. You also still have the tiptronic versus the PDK in later 997s. You do get more modern interior and round headlights (if you prefer round, which frankly I don't as I've grown to like the uniqueness of the 996 headlights) versus the 996. So that 997 is not a bad way to go, but if you are going to go into the $30k's, you might want to go a little higher and look at a 2009 model to get the new engine design and PDK.
That being said, I'll go back to what the others said and recommend buying groovzilla's car. Figure $19,750 and you can buy it as is with confidence and no PPI due to the unique circumstances. Spend $1,000 transporting it or flying out and driving home (my favorite way to get a car). That puts you at all in at under $21k and you've got a fantastic car that you'll be able to sell for what you paid for it 3 or 4 years from now when the 2009 997s have dropped into the low $30ks.
His Original Post said he just turned 71, I'm making the assumption that it is something to do with that. My uncle had his hip replaced at that age and no way he could drive a stick now.
But Maybe I'm wrong!
A plus for the '06 997 is that it has the larger IMSB, which is much less prone to failure.
It is also a very strong pulling engine. I know because it is the same one that I have in my 996.
This car looks very nice to me, but I am partial to blue/grey. And though the mileage is somewhat high for the model year, I think the price reflects this and seems to be very fair. Definitely worth a visit and a drive IMO.
I do PPIs, but they are far from cheap. I take most of the car apart to inspect for damages. I spend more than one full day on the engine alone.
Few cars are bought once I give a report loaded with data.
IIRC this is an actual invasive PPI which is worth a lot more IMO as he is inspecting the internals and not just the pretty shiny components from the outside. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just wanted to state that it's not apples to apples hence the cost variation.
The TIP is a great transmission, especially the gen 2's. As long as serviced as required it should last as long if not longer than the engine and no clutch to replace
Its not your fathers Auto transmission
The tip trannys are tanks.. They never fail.
The tip cars respond to big bore engines exceptionally well, their gear ratios love added torque and broader, flatter torque curves.
