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Spend another $2000 to replace the IMS, and you're still ahead of the game.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I am in the market for a used 911. Please let me know if the below prices seem fair from a private non dealer party and if the 2003 version is worth the extra money, when considering slightly higher miles. I will get a PPI in advance. Thanks 2001 911 coupe 45k miles for $21,500 2003 911 4S coupe 55k miles for $23,500

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Both are 6 speed manual. 2001 has sunroof, not sure if the 2003 does. Both seem to be in excellent condition and garage kept as second cars. Regular service has been performed. No IMS issues noted. Thank you

POST 4Original post

There are a lot of other variables (options, condition, etc..) that are needed to really answer that question, but 10k miles isn't much of a difference. Unless there is something special about it, the 01 might be a tad high on its price. Conversely the 03 May be a little light on its price which could suggest something else going on. Everything else being equal, the 03 has AWD, is a wide body, and has the 3.6 motor rather than the 3.4.

POST 5Original post

The '03 is the better model between the two, presuming both are unmolested. AWD, better looking, later and more powerful.

POST 6Original post

Physical conditions equal I would take the C4S. They are special cars.

POST 7Original post

The c4s with those miles and that price....something is wrong with it. I never understood the vague what do you think of this car (s) post. So many variables to consider. If you have a link to the cars post em up.

POST 8Original post

Price for the 4S makes no sense But if both check out - 4S is the better way to go. It's basically a turbo with out the turbo engine.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 12508549

X2. The only ones I've seen at that price is salvage title ones.

POST 10Original post

The C4S is definitely priced too low, especially with that mileage. Personally, I wouldn't spend that much on a 2001 C2 though. I purchased mine for $15,900 with 98k on the car, 38k on the engine. I would definitely go with the 2003 car if the PPI checks out good. Has it had its 60k service done? Probably time for a water pump soon too if it hasn't had it done.

POST 11Original post

I recently saw an '03 C4S that sold for $24k (IMS/RMS done) but it had 80k miles. If it passes PPI then you should jump on it.

POST 12Original post

Off the information you gave, 4S. If the 4S doesn't have a moon roof, buy it.

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks all. Having a hard time getting a hold of the 4S owner. Will try to get the 2001 closer to $20k.

POST 14Original post

If mileage isn't a concern, groovzilla just put his 4S up for sale and I can vouch for him as a seller. The one identified above seems to be too good to be true if it's a "no stories" car. I specifically looked for a 4S because of the wide body, and turbo suspension and brakes. I have been very happy with my decision. Good luck with your search!

POST 15Original post

Excellent point. While I do not know Groovzilla, he seems a completely straight-up guy, and knows his way around Porsches. Perhaps you should chase the lower price point car from a known entity. Mileage? Meh. Spend another $2000 to replace the IMS, and you're still ahead of the game. Plus, you've done a solid for a Rennlister.

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POST 18Original post

The C4S seems very cheap. That'd be �23,500 GBP in the UK with that mileage. Prices in the UK have gone up a lot over the past 12 months. Good luck with your purchase, the 4S is the better car.

POST 19Original post

I guess it all depends where you are, this is my old 4S in top class condition advertised at $22k, likely to go for under $20k http://dubai.dubizzle.com/motors/use...WdlbnQ9&pos=36

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 12513963

It really depends on the individual also, i would imagine if it's a Senior Citizen (65+) he's most likely Not looking for a Manual!

POST 22Original post

And it's in the UAE, so not anything the OP would consider, and maybe not reflective of the local US market.

POST 23Original post

Curios is carfax or something similar used in Europe?

POST 24 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

As you all suspected, the 4S has a salvage title. Would getting the 6 speed manual 2001 911 with 45k miles for $20k be a fair price? It's below KBB and TMV. It is listed for $21.5 but planning to negotiate. This is of course if the PPI checks out. Thanks

POST 25Original post

Quotes source post: 12515016

I don't think that's unreasonable at all depending on options. I picked up a well optioned 2000 C2 last year with 49K on it. Listed at $21,500, agreed on 20K even.

POST 26Original post

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Indeed, a manual would be about $15-$17k here if you could find one. Yawn.......... Merely posted as a juxtaposition to Bobster996's comment on UK prices.

POST 28Original post

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The chance to buy a C4S with a salvage title for more than Groovy's fine example?

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