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Use chapstick in a pinch

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I have used chapstick in a pinch.

AOS is stuck!!!
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Disconnect )

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If you have a 996.2 you pull up, if you have a 996.1 you pull sideways toward the drivers side..( with every thing disconnected)

AOS is stuck!!!
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Use short extension too

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Cant remeber but i probably used a short extension too.

AOS is stuck!!!

Use very light layer of extra motor oil (extra dt-40)

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I used a very light layer of extra motor oil (extra DT-40).

AOS is stuck!!!

Use will corrode metal and make everything harder

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Especially for you guys up North, the salt used will corrode metal and make everything harder to remove.It's not much the cost of the AOS, they are relatively cheap compared to the labor/time to replace them...

AOS is stuck!!!

Use with the 10mm bolt...it's a slow process

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Short Box wrench is what I used with the 10mm bolt...It's a slow process.

AOS is stuck!!!
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If you have a 996.2 you pull up, if you have a 996.1 you pull sideways toward the drivers side..( with every thing disconnected)

AOS is stuck!!!

Replace green upper manifold gaskets

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is it necessary to replace the green upper manifold gaskets?

AOS is stuck!!!

Replace hose's while you're in there

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I would replace the hose's while you're in there.

AOS is stuck!!!

Replace screw

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that's why I suggested you replace the screw with a socket head.

AOS is stuck!!!

Set (1/4 drive) and had luck

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I think someone found a stubby socket set (1/4 drive) and had luck.

AOS is stuck!!!

Smoke-test before you button everything back up

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A smoke test before you button everything back up for good is not a bad idea.

AOS is stuck!!!

Use camera

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use the camera to help you get the ball driver on the far back socket.

AOS is stuck!!!

Use chapstick in a pinch

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I have used chapstick in a pinch.

AOS is stuck!!!

Use short extension too

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Cant remeber but i probably used a short extension too.

AOS is stuck!!!

Use some lithium grease or suitable agent

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Use some lithium grease or suitable agent on the AOS fitting when reinstalling.

AOS is stuck!!!
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only way i could get it

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It was the only way I could get it...

AOS is stuck!!!
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I've been fighting with this thing for hours. Everything with the exception of one of the water lines has been disconnected. No matter how hard I pry or pull, I just can not seem to lift this thing out from the engine case either above or below the car. Any suggestions?

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Quotes source post: 17119813

In order for us to better assist, take some clear photographs with your iPhone and repost. Explain what you've done to gain access to the AOS (i.e. lowered the engine, transmission removed or not, etc.).

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Intake removed, tranny in, engine not lowered.

POST 4Original post

If you have a 996.2 you pull up, if you have a 996.1 you pull sideways toward the drivers side..( with every thing disconnected)

POST 5Original post

I had a similar issue. The AOS fitting that is inserted into the case gets stuck. And it�s hard to get access to pry that area. You will get it eventually. Try various prys and angles. Walk away and come back several times. Use some lithium grease or suitable agent on the AOS fitting when reinstalling. Or it may be a bear to install too. It�s not a fun project. You�ll get it!

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

02 C4S. Been pulling up for days

POST 7Original post

This is one of the reasons I invented the UAOS, saving the expense and PITA of not ever having to do this again. Especially for you guys up North, the salt used will corrode metal and make everything harder to remove.It's not much the cost of the AOS, they are relatively cheap compared to the labor/time to replace them...

POST 8Original post

Maybe you've already done this, but you didn't say. Did you​​​ unbolt two bolts holding it in, and remove the clamp holding the hose on the bottom? I had to do those three things from under the car (with a MT) apparently a Tip trans is harder. My difficulties here, including a picture from the bottom: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post17013135 Sorry if that's trivial, and that of course you did that, but I thought I'd offer my prior posts about the same issue.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thanks. Appreciate the reply. Yes. Bolts out all hoses off with the exception of one water line.

POST 10Original post

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they are two 5mm allen(socket head) screws correct? I just did this job on an 02 so it's fresh in my mind. At first I removed the a wrong screw (to the alum part of intake) and I couldn't get the AOS out.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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no. Only one was. Which I thought was odd, maybe the one one the left is still in there? then what 10 mm volt did I remove just in front of it.

POST 13Original post

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Well I would bet you removed a wrong screw. one of those cameras is worth it's weight in something

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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you may be right as I thought it was odd they�d be mis matched

POST 15Original post

get a set of those ball drive hex wrenches at harbor freight. the extended ones about 5 inches long. get a 3/8 to 1/4 adapter too....and a 1/4 ratchet

POST 16Original post

you can also get a nifty 1/4 inch drive torque wrench called bike pro for 65 bucks....if you want. don't require it

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I do have a set of the ball end hex wrenches I�ll see if it�s still in there and if I can get to it.

POST 18Original post

also get some 35mm long, 6mm thread socket head(5mm) replacement screws for the manifold from Bel Metric. It will make installation of that back screw way easier. your new AOS will have more material right in the frickin way

POST 19Original post

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Been there done that one! Lowering the motor to the crossbar really helps on the .2's

POST 20Original post

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the lower intake manifold

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Doug, You nailed it! There were two hex screws and I didnt get the one on the left. And finally got it out!! Many Thanks. No idea how I am going to get this all back together....

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Good. I'll tell you.....the difficult AOS screw.... put in with a little pencil pocket extender magnet insert the far back manifold screw (Bel Metric sourced 35mm long 5mm socket head) into the manifold before you slide the manifold in place get the camera, Amazon Amazon use the camera to help you get the ball driver on the far back socket. once it's in, it will pretty much stay in place

POST 23Original post

I taped that most rearward hex screw to the socket to reinstall, firm enough so it would not drop but loose enough so that once the threads caught the tape broke free and came out with the socket.

POST 24 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks. Hope to start the reinstall today. couple questions. is it necessary to replace the green upper manifold gaskets? is there an easy way to verify the AOS vac hoses are still ok?

POST 25Original post

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I did not replace, obviously if there is any visible damage or deformation, replace. In my case, they looked perfect. A smoke test before you button everything back up for good is not a bad idea. Smoke tester can be made for cheap dough with a hand transfer pump and a cigar.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Cant seem to find my tube of dielectric grease to lube the oring. Any other suitable alternatives?

POST 27Original post

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Porsche suggests vaseline. I have used chapstick in a pinch.

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thanks considered Vaseline, but wasn�t sure if that would deteriorate it or not.

POST 29Original post

I used a very light layer of extra motor oil (extra DT-40). The whole system gets exposed to oil anyway, so I I don't suppose it can hurt anything.

POST 30 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Zbomb. Tape trick worked perfectly. Hex bolts secure, all hoses reattached. now on to the manifold...

POST 31 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So how do I get that front manifold bolt back in? I think it�s seated, just can�t get a socket on it.

POST 32Original post

I think this is where dropping the motor some really helps on a mk2. I had enough room on my mk1 to get a 1/4" drive and socket in there. Cant remeber but i probably used a short extension too.

POST 33 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Top clearance doesn�t seem to be the issue, as I was able to get the bolt out. I currently cannot get a socket between the manifold and the new AOS.

POST 34Original post

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Nope, you won't. Short Box wrench is what I used with the 10mm bolt...It's a slow process.

POST 35 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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did you approach from inside (under) the manifold or from the left side (outside) of the manifold?

POST 36Original post

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I would replace the hose's while you're in there. They are old and it's easier now rather than later.

POST 37Original post

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that's why I suggested you replace the screw with a socket head. you can get a ball driver in there and even torque it right

POST 38Original post

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Left outside by feel. You can't see **** while doing it. Think chopsticks holding the wrench with the fuel line under the wrench in the palm of your hand. It was the only way I could get it... I think someone found a stubby socket set (1/4 drive) and had luck.

POST 39Original post

You need to leave the AOS loose to get the socket between the manifold and AOS. Loosen the AOS so it gives you the slightest wiggle. Also, I think I shaved my magnetic 1/4in 10MM socket down on a bench grinder to minimize the room I needed.

POST 40 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Almost there. Took forever to get that foremost manifold bolt in. Would have been much easier to switch to a hex bolt, but was already halfway in when I understood the recommendation. Also a little impatient in having to wait for a bolt to arrive. Also struggled with bolt 4, so had to loosen all others back up to get it to align. Rear plenum is back in. Today may finish up, but have a couple questions. I have the IPD comp plenum and GT3 TB that I was going to put back in. I know the verdict is out on those but can�t hurt so was going to reinstall. I also removed a K&N �CAI� that I think I am going to keep off. Question is do I go to the factory airbox? Factory airbox with resonator delete? Or source a 997 box? thanks for all the help so far. Jeremy.

POST 41Original post

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The 997 airbox is the way to go. If you need a 996 airbox, I have one. If you sell the IPD and throttle body I'd be interested for my R40 build.

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