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Yeah its the Porsche / Audi approved body shop and I checked the Porsche manuals and they have directions of where to cut and join panels, but I'm still concerned about the rust resistance of any repair.
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I need to call them as there going to take the car back and refit / adjust the claim shell which isn't closing fully on the RH side proud by a 1/8 of a inch.
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They also filled the license plate holes and fixed some poorly repaired paint around the rear.
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They also filled the license plate holes and fixed some poorly repaired paint around the rear.
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I need to call them as there going to take the car back and refit / adjust the claim shell which isn't closing fully on the RH side proud by a 1/8 of a inch.
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I need to call them as there going to take the car back and refit / adjust the claim shell which isn't closing fully on the RH side proud by a 1/8 of a inch.
Check porsche manuals and they have directions of where
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Yeah its the Porsche / Audi approved body shop and I checked the Porsche manuals and they have directions of where to cut and join panels, but I'm still concerned about the rust resistance of any repair.
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You really should check with your insurance first because based on the amount that could be felony vandalism, which you are covered for without penalty.
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Honestly I don't think mine needed to be replaced (other driver's insurance had to pay so I wasn't arguing), so if anyone wants to see if it is really still usable PM me and I'll get you in contact with the shop that has it.
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It wasn't bad I've seen worse on new BMW's but still not what I'd expect.
So I left the car on the street last night at 11:30 and came out to this at 7:20
I'm convinced there's a big magnet hidden in the back of all Porsche but this is the first time it was turned on when stationary lol
Any way body shop thinks the whole panel need replacing or at least cut and patched with a new panel.
Well that sucks. The rear apron is plastic, easy to remove. My guess is you want to go thru insurance, but that dent probably could be popped out from the other side and the paint buffed.
My lovely wife scrubbed my fender with the Tacoma and it polished right out. 1/8" closer and it would have been a whole lot worse since it was above on the rear quarter panel (metal part)
Yeah its a odd impact assuming it wasn't deliberate I don't think I've pissed any body off and if I have and I find out they will regret it lol.
I think was a truck the bumper is the tire and the panel / light the fender.
Yeah going through insurance with the local Porsche approved body shop although I wasn't impressed when I went in for the estimate but we will see.
Ha try $10K. That whole quarter panel will have to go. Bumper alone will be around 800-1K. There's a fair chance the car will get totaled, depending on what the sheetmetal looks like underneath.
Yeah I was thinking it might get close to totaled
My concern is the ability of any shop to truly do a 'factory' repair on a galvanized body with enclosed sections. So now's the time to find out as I was jsut about to rebuild the front suspension, new struts and tires all round.
Sorry to see this man, best of luck with insurance.
On the same subject, my mother lives in Manhattan and had 2006 330i. She loves driving so wanted to keep the car even when living in the Manhattan. In three years of having the car there she had side smashed, two rear bumpers destroyed, one front bumper destroyed, mirror knocked off, and incalculable number of "courtesy" key or some bull **** marks left on the car. Not once anyone left a note after bumping the car. She showed me the thousands of dollars she spent on body-work through no fault of her own, it was insane.
She finally had enough few month ago and asked me to sell the car. Just to blow my mind, I was crossing the street in Harlem, saw a cab stop, black woman swung the door open right into the tail light of the parked car and broke it, said "oh I am sorry" and went off. Unbelievable.
Bimmer gold sold in three days though.
OP, I feel for you. Been rear ended in her 996 3 times in 10 months
Magnets indeed.
The hit I took in January required a new bumper skin. $2200 for the part by itself.
Honestly I don't think mine needed to be replaced (other driver's insurance had to pay so I wasn't arguing), so if anyone wants to see if it is really still usable PM me and I'll get you in contact with the shop that has it.
If it gets totaled buy it back and have a paintless dent guy pop it out and fix it. If you're okay with the results keep it, if not, sell it for significantly more than the buyback price and take the 3k-5k in profit and put it into the budget for the next one.
Hard to imagine having that happen to your Porsche and the culprit that did it just drove away. I do believe in karma though and maybe, just maybe, that person will be on the receiving end next time. Hope it can be fixed adequately for you.
Yeah no dumper trucks, it happened sometime between 11:30 pm and 7:20 am I'm tempted to walk around the neighbor hood and look for matching damage.
Tokyopav I like the dash cam idea, may be I can connect it to a flame thrower
The plastics guys can do amazing stuff with the bumper cover. It's obviously going to need to be painted, but you may be pleasantly surprised about the bumper cover. The fender sucks. It looks like the tail light made it through unscathed?
The tail light is scuffed and cracked.
<y main concern is the shop was heading towards cutting the panel and replace and I'm concerned how you weld a galvanized panel and not destroy the galvanizing.
sorry to temporarily hijack...but what cam do you have?
need to catch my neighbour doing what he does to my mdx thats parked on the street .... the pcar stays in the garage because of this a-hole.
ot....i cant even see how that damage could be done in one shot. ouch.
They want to cut out the damaged part and weld in new material? That's a new one on me for a car for which parts are readily available.
If your light is going to get replaced, consider taking that part of the settlement and updating to LED tails...if you like the look, anyway.
That panel is part of the tub.
I'm not sure what's the right thing to do there. A Porsche Approved Collision Center would be the place to take the car for an estimate and discussion about the repairs.
Yeah its the Porsche / Audi approved body shop and I checked the Porsche manuals and they have directions of where to cut and join panels, but I'm still concerned about the rust resistance of any repair.
So I got the estimate back $9,828 !! cost of the rear bumper $2,212 cost of new panel $2,048 cost of lamp (later model smoked) $605.
The good news is the insurance is waving my deductible
Congrats on the deductible being waived.
$2K for a bumper cover...that part is worth more than many of the cars I've owned over the years. Are you going to have the shop do any additional work while you're there?
Yeah I asked for a quote to redo the front bumper and hood stone chips $1850 !! but they want to take it back to bare metal and flair into the front wings / fenders to ensure a color match so its OK but I will probably pass at this point.
Fwiw I spent $3k do get the front bumper, hood, fenders and mirrors reprinted. They also filled the license plate holes and fixed some poorly repaired paint around the rear.
Yeah and what really gets me is that the 996.1 rear skin is pretty straight forward (e.g. no cut outs, no weird contours, etc..) but my 958 turbo bumper only cost me like $350
(it's bigger and has lots more detail)
One of the times the 996 was in the shop this year we finally had the front bumper repainted (lots of missing paint from it's days of street parking in DC). My guy repainted it for $500, but it looks off compared to the rest of the paint around it (hood & fenders) since it's a nice fresh black compared to the faded out black on the rest of the car.
Is your car black or a metallic color? Treat your car to a good detail.
You need to polish the clear-coat on the rest of the car and it won't look faded anymore. Black is the easiest color to match and you really shouldn't have noticeable fade if you kept the paint in decent condition. A good polish and wax and the bumper should be spot on.
I'd work with a shop that will shape the rear quarter back to proper contour and not cut it. That is possible with the right person on it. Replace the bumper cover and light and respray the quarter, blending if needed. Cut and replace is the last resort.
No this is old and tired (and not factory due to other accidents) paint that has lived its entire life in the elements. There is also some bad oxidation going on with the roof (factory paint).
Whenever we finally get a garage it will get a full repaint to look pretty again.
I'll let you know what happens, I like the idea of pulling out and bondo at least the galvanizing stay largely intact. When its authorized I'll go and talk to the shop and the guy who's going to do it not just a estimator.
Finally a update, not overly impressed with Farmers taking a week to get to look at the car.
Farmers Insurance have agreed the repairs and the very helpful adjuster agreed with my concerns about cutting the panel and the shop will try and pull out the dent rather than cut and weld.
So now I just need to get it done.
OK I now have my car back
They were able to pull the dent out instead of cut and weld, so the total cost to insurance $5,445.70 and 2 weeks. it needs to go back next week as the roof clam shell isn't sitting entirely flush so they are going to refit that. In addition when I picked up I could see orange peel in the paint but under different light I can't !
It wasn't bad I've seen worse on new BMW's but still not what I'd expect.
That is incredibly inconsiderate, I guess the rationale would be 'he can afford that, he can afford to fix it'
I like the idea of tracking down the refuse company, pretty logical.
You really should check with your insurance first because based on the amount that could be felony vandalism, which you are covered for without penalty.
I had some paint work done on my C2 at the authorized Pcar dealer. It looked great in the shop but after I had it home and looked at in the sun light it was pretty bad. Took it back and they re-sprayed it and it looked good except for some orange peel. At first they told me it was normal and actually showed be a new Mercedes to make their point. My point was simple, it had no orange peel before and I wasn't going to accept orange peel after they worked on it. They simply did some wet sanding and buff and it came out perfect.
Don't be afraid to ask them to fix it.
Pcargo, I didn't think about a wide body conversion only the one side and never came to mind.
Since I've had the car back I'm not seeing the orange peel so, I need to pull in our shop here and have a good look under decent lighting. Its certainly not bad. I need to call them as there going to take the car back and refit / adjust the claim shell which isn't closing fully on the RH side proud by a 1/8 of a inch.
I'm really disappointed by the paint quality on new cars, I need to take a close look at new Porches when I'm next at the dealer.
Orange peel is common on new cars from GM and such. I don't recall seeing orange peel on higher priced exotics. Dunno about the 996 though when new. Now you have me curious...
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