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Use on my '99

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These are the ones I used on my '99.

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Replace 4 as they do age and get lazy

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It would be a good idea to replace all 4 as they do age and get lazy.

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Replace 4 as they do age and get lazy

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It would be a good idea to replace all 4 as they do age and get lazy.

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Replace whole exhaust system, headers, mufflers, catalytic converter

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I am changing my whole exhaust system, headers, mufflers, catalytic converter.

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Run longer than normal wire length

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NTK / NGK sensors - they run longer than normal wire length.

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Use just upstream (before not

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Just curious gentlemen, what was the last year 996 that used just upstream (before not after) cat sensors?

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Replace 4 as they do age and get lazy

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It would be a good idea to replace all 4 as they do age and get lazy.

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Replace whole exhaust system, headers, mufflers, catalytic converter

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I am changing my whole exhaust system, headers, mufflers, catalytic converter.

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Run longer than normal wire length

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NTK / NGK sensors - they run longer than normal wire length.

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Use just upstream (before not

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Just curious gentlemen, what was the last year 996 that used just upstream (before not after) cat sensors?

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Use on my '99

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These are the ones I used on my '99.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have a 2001 996 C2. I am changing my whole exhaust system, headers, mufflers, catalytic converter. My question is do I need new O2 sensors? If so, do I need 2 or 4? One before and after the cat, or just the pre cat for each side/converter...thanks.

POST 2Original post

There are 4 units - 2 upstream and 2 downstream (all same sensor) You don't need new sensors but it may be wise as they are very cheap (under $250 for all 4 units) and it makes sure there are no issues down the road. Easy access now and makes sense given the rest of the spend. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...2)+sensor,5132 There are coupons for 5% off - look it up in google.

POST 3Original post

The 2 upstream and the 2 downstream r the same, all 4 r NOT the same. It would be a good idea to replace all 4 as they do age and get lazy. I perfer the bosch units for the 996.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, 997ajk. Rock auto is $188 less than pelican and that's without the additional 5%. De Jeeper thank you as well!

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 18331075

NGK - lists 1 sensor for all position Bosch - lists the same probe.... The difference lies in the length of the wire - upstream is 22" and 20.5" for downstream.

POST 6Original post

That can't be correct, the upstream are wideband O2's and the downstream are narrowband O2's.

POST 7Original post

These are the ones I used on my '99. About 13cm difference in wire length.

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 18331592

Not sure on the upstream ones being wideband as generally speaking those are used in direct (stratified) gasolie injection which the M96 is not.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 18331226

Ngk is wrong, as said already 2 r wide band

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 18331592

NTK / NGK sensors - they run longer than normal wire length. Perhaps use it on other models as well. Bosch - probes are the same https://www.boschautoparts.com/produ...eTypeGroupId=2

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just curious gentlemen, what was the last year 996 that used just upstream (before not after) cat sensors? I'm guessing it's when they switched from cable to drive by wire throttle body correct.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 18331756

I think all 996s have both upstream and downstream. My 99 with throttle cable has 4.

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I just watched a video by the UK company TOPGEAR. In the video a customer said his shop told him early cars required only 2(before) cat O2 sensors.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Also, if both sensors are the same (Bosh). Why on Rock Auto is the downstream Bosh O2 sensor $7 more?

POST 16Original post

Sekund�rlufteinblasung=SAI. Siehe=see/refer to The rest will be obvious I reckon. Wideband sensors have multi-colour wires and at least 5 wires.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

OK, we have stricter emissions standards. What about O2 sensors being interchangeable upstream or downstream?

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18331944

So, if upstream is shorter how can you put it downstream? solder on more wire? One word here.... nonsensical.

POST 20Original post

My answer was wrong acc. to an earlier post, the upstream ones have longer wires that's why I deleted it. Sorry for the confusion... Soldering is not the way to do it but BOSCH also provides the correct type of sensor with pigtail but without the connector as a generic offering. You remove the connector from your old sensor by cutting it off and connecting it to the pigtail by means of included crimp connectors and heat shrink tubing. Getting 4 sensors with the long wires you can swap position as you like :-) (that's how NGK manages 1 p/n for all 4sensors) ThePrf is not going to agree but all of the 4 sensors are narrow Band sensors. BTW, did you read post #7? Everything you need to know to find out what the differences are between the two part numbers.

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Got it...thanks hardtailer. I think I will go with both before and after versions.

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 18331971

If they are all 4 pinners then they are narrowband - which is fascinating, as every OBD2 car I have ever owned has wideband front O2's. Even my '96 Passat...

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