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YOUR RESEARCHRacheting Feel in the Steering Wheel
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My mechanic drove it and said it was the springs that reset the blinker (blinker doesn't have to be on to make the sounds).
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Last tire service -- car needed new front tires -- for my Boxster I used an indy tire store.
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My mechanic drove it and said it was the springs that reset the blinker (blinker doesn't have to be on to make the sounds).
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The only concession I make to the car's steering is I do avoid leaving the wheel at full lock (or anything close to it) for any length of time with the engine running but beyond that "precaution" I do not worry about it.
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The only concession I make to the car's steering is I do avoid leaving the wheel at full lock (or anything close to it) for any length of time with the engine running but beyond that "precaution" I do not worry about it.
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I have a C2, when I back up and make a hard left it feels like the right wheel has been mounted incorrectly, and you can feel it rachet. The wheel is flat against the hub and torqued to specs. This occurs more often in colder weather.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Mine made a clicking sound. My mechanic drove it and said it was the springs that reset the blinker (blinker doesn't have to be on to make the sounds). That's why it occurred on tight turns--mostly backing out of the driveway. He said it was an easy adjustment that could be done the next time the wheel comes off. Now that I'm not worried about it being something that could cause steering to fail I don't notice it. Hope for ya it's something simple.
My 1972 track car did that, felt like the tire was skipping, on low speed tight turns. That car had much wider than stock tires and aggressive alignment.
Are your front tires stock sizes, 245-40 18, with stock ride height and alignment?
Normal.
At full lock the inside front tire is not in full contact with the pavement. When one backs up slowly with full wheel lock, or pulls forward under the same conditions, the inside front tire with its reduced grip will skip/scrub and what you felt is the result.
(When turned, the two front wheels have to follow two different arcs and these are not perfectly balanced and at extreme wheel lock something has to give and it is the inside front tire and its less than ideal contact with the pavement.)
Cold pavement, slick pavement possible coupled with cold, worn tires and hard tires (from all the heat cycles) all contribute to this behavior.
As long as there is no steering or suspension misbehavior at any other times, the car steers ok, doesn't shimmy or shake and the tires do not exhibit any signs of odd or extreme or excessive tire wear what you felt/heard is normal.
Thank you that is it. It is normally when it is very cold out side and almost full lock backing up slowly. The best way to describe it, is it feels like my old 4W drive with the front hubs locked.
To the new owner the behavior/noise/feel is a bit disconcerting.
When I can I have fun with it. Last tire service -- car needed new front tires -- for my Boxster I used an indy tire store. (I know I know. Somebody call Hell to see if it needs blankets!)
Upon backing the car out of the work area I had the front wheels turned full lock. The new tires didn't scrub/skip, they wanted too but couldn't. Instead they emitted a piercing squeal that had every tech in the place, in fact everyone in the place, turning to look at the car.
The car was in a particularly tight spot so it took me a couple of stabs of backing up full lock puling forward full lock to get the car positioned to where I could drive it out of the service area.
I left the place with everyone's ears ringing.
How many degrees off center can I safely steer?
I detect some Krazy K influence. The forces required to turn a car in a driveway or parking lot are quite low and our cars suspension can certainly handle them, even at full lock. The ratchet feel is the tires being pushed beyond their slip angle, so they slip a bit which also isn't a problem at low speed.
Both my Boxster and Turbo have done this uncountable times over the years and there has been no harm to the steering or suspension. The steering system in the Boxster is original and working just fine. Ditto the Turbo.
The Boxster does this every time I back out of a parking space during the cooler months where i live and often even during the warmer months if the overnight temperature is low enough. The Turbo, likewise.
When the tire scrubs under this full lock condition while the noise/vibration is disconcerting there is no real harm done.
In some cases one has to be able to use full lock -- albeit at very slow speeds, walking pace (or slower) speed -- to get the car out of or into a parking space.
(I have also observed, well felt, a higher frequency juddering from the front end when turning very sharply at higher speeds. The feeling could be mistaken for ABS braking but I'm not using the brakes when this juddering occurs. This juddering is just the inside front tire scrubbing but at a higher frequency because of the higher speed.)
The only concession I make to the car's steering is I do avoid leaving the wheel at full lock (or anything close to it) for any length of time with the engine running but beyond that "precaution" I do not worry about it. If the steering is robust enough to control the car and survive unscathed at much higher speeds (150mph+ for the Boxster, 189mph for the Turbo) and the much higher forces involved I think the steering can withstand the forces encountered at these much slower speeds with no ill effects.
It is only a theory, but I think Ackermann steering is only present for normal driving (not parking) steering angles. When you get close to lock, the two front tires aren't on their perfect turning arcs (the two arcs are different) and that explains juddering and scrubbing. Porsche probably did this to keep the turning radius small.
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