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YOUR RESEARCHWho stole a motor?

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engine is removed for repair/rebuild, sent out to shady operator and never seen again.

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My understanding is that he’s selling the car with a bad engine, the pictures are to illustrate that fact as he will not even allow it to be test driven.

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engine is removed for repair/rebuild, sent out to shady operator and never seen again.

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My understanding is that he’s selling the car with a bad engine, the pictures are to illustrate that fact as he will not even allow it to be test driven.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Alright I know motors can be expensive for most people but I hope this is really an isolated incident. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...US_Cars_Trucks Theft recovery car and the only thing that seems wrong with it is the lack of a motor. I wonder if it was one of Jakes special 3.8 or 4.0 motors...

POST 2Original post

That's a pricey roller! At least they were nice enough to take their time and disconnect everything?

POST 3Original post

^^^ I call BS on the "theft" story. Looks like way too neat of a job. Motor mounts are even put back. No scratches on the paint around the engine compartment.

POST 4Original post

Stolen by a true Porsche lover with scored bores and a failed IMS

POST 5Original post

Looks like the thief also needed rear bumperettes and a coolant tank cap. Good thing I painted my bumperettes body color ... cuts down the odds on getting hit by a roaming bumperette thief.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Lol, all good points gents. I didn't really look at all the details at first until you guys pointed it out. But something does seem fishy.

POST 7Original post

Damn! there's the MT I've been wanting! wish you hadn't shown me that!

POST 8Original post

There are several "goofy" cars on ebay right now. There's one who was a victim of MotorMeister: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...US_Cars_Trucks

POST 9Original post

The numbers these guys are asking for are insane... Who cares what the story is, a non-driver is just that. If it's ALSO completely missing the engine and accessories - only a chassis like a turbo or GT2/3 is going to command north of $10k when it comes to me laying out dollars again for a roller. Given Motor-Meister's demise - I would expect a number of these victims to try and recover over/above the average-market price of a roller pre-MM-demise. I can't blame them for trying; but I predict they will be yet-again disappointed in the today-value of a 996 chassis. I wonder if those owners could be made more finacially-whole by claiming the replacement-value of the engine as a capital-loss on their taxes and then dump the chassis for cash at the more realistic price...

POST 10Original post

BS on motor theft. Motor is the most traceable part of the car. If I were to strip the 996, I would not touch the motor. Take the head/tail lights, interior pieces, brakes, instrument cluster, bumpers, and interior. That is it.

POST 11Original post

seems odd to me too. why leave the electronics? IMS blew, owner didnt want to deal with it... so it was "stolen"

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 11510993

This, If i'm yanking the motor on a hot car, I would be cutting things left and right. Why would you bother with the wiring and coolant hoses when you'll dump the roller?

POST 13Original post

If your motor went to Motormeister and was "lost", can you file an insurance claim?

POST 14Original post

And why would you pull the engine without the transmission? No way this is true.

POST 15Original post

Hard to say. It didn't say how long it was in the theft's hands. Maybe they hid it in a secret garage and took their time to remove the engine properly The asking price is unrealistic for a roller regardless.

POST 16Original post

I don't understand. Why would a faker pull the engine so surgically ? What are the chances they would benefit from that effort ?

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 11512219

Maybe done by a Porsche lover/enthusiast? Or wanted to pull insurance fraud and have their friend buy it back when it went on sale again sans motor?

POST 18Original post

Maybe it is MM car. The owner claimed motor was stolen since there were no other alternatives and ins paid out. Now for sale?

POST 19Original post

God, I am getting old if it took me this long to post this. It is Racewars time!!! Couple of M96 motors would fetch the premium right before Racewars, wouldn't they? Jake and KK would pay a good dollar for a running one Ted! See anything wrong here ted? WE GOT NO ENGINES DO WE? - YouTube

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 11512664

Makes sense ... engine is removed for repair/rebuild, sent out to shady operator and never seen again. Doesn't explain the missing coolant tank cap or bumperettes, but still a lot more plausible than the engine-thief-in-the-night scenario.

POST 21Original post

Or - Engine is removed and stored by thief. Thief buys roller, reunites it with roller and has clear title.

POST 22Original post

Read the listing... My understanding is that he’s selling the car with a bad engine, the pictures are to illustrate that fact as he will not even allow it to be test driven. Pictures are from the last time the engine was removed.

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 11516647

I think you're reading KC's link which he just says it's goofy, not stolen. The link I provided says the car was stolen.

POST 24Original post

Well the car may have been stolen, then recovered and somebody started to part it already, or the people that stole it may have done a decent job of removing the motor, after all the harnesses, etc. are worth something also... BTW, I don’t see how an engine is easily traceable. They do not have VIN #s anywhere on them and the motor designation is only printed in a very small area. It’s hard enough to read them without intentional tampering.

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The motors all have serial numbers but yes not easily traceable unless you're able to match up a serial number with a vin.

POST 26Original post

Quotes source post: 11517085

A engine serial number is keyed to a VIN number. Once a car VIN has been reported stolen the engine serial number is also flagged as well so a auto theft check on just the engine number will show it as stolen.

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