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Selling it really showed up the downside of 996 ownership, Congratulations Jake on the Hype/Marketing you put together, it really is crazy that you can have a perfect car but people cant now get past where the IMS has been replaced, irrespective of the condition of the car.

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"Congratulations Jake on the Hype/Marketing you put together, it really is crazy that you can have a perfect car but people cant now get past where the IMS has been replaced, irrespective of the condition of the car.

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Dealers will use ANY excuse to lower the price and you got sucked into it.

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Selling it really showed up the downside of 996 ownership, Congratulations Jake on the Hype/Marketing you put together, it really is crazy that you can have a perfect car but people cant now get past where the IMS has been replaced, irrespective of the condition of the car.

Adios

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"Congratulations Jake on the Hype/Marketing you put together, it really is crazy that you can have a perfect car but people cant now get past where the IMS has been replaced, irrespective of the condition of the car.

Adios

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Dealers will use ANY excuse to lower the price and you got sucked into it.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So I finally sold my 40th, in the end a local dealer bought it for an absolute rock bottom price, but its gone now and time to move on, I fancy something different. Loved my Porsche ownership and really liked the car, the group on here are mostly entertaining and knowledgeable, which made ownership much simpler. Selling it really showed up the downside of 996 ownership, Congratulations Jake on the Hype/Marketing you put together, it really is crazy that you can have a perfect car but people cant now get past where the IMS has been replaced, irrespective of the condition of the car. I would guess selling a POS with the LN bearing would have been easier than a car in perfect condition without one. On to the hunt for the next fun car, maybe an E39 M5 or a E55, or a E320 Cab, decisions decisions.

POST 2Original post

My vote is the E55 or E320 cab. We have the S55, it's a whole buncha car. We also have an SL, but love the idea of real backseats like the E has. Good luck!

POST 3Original post

E55 my man. Buy one if you want to feel like taking off in the jet every day. I am like a kid every morning. The torque and mind numbing acceleration is beyond addictive.

POST 4Original post

Dealers will use ANY excuse to lower the price and you got sucked into it. The average 996 owner has no idea what the IMS bearing is or could care less. This dealer will sell you car to someone like that at a proper market value. You let him beat you down.

POST 5Original post

Good luck in your next automotive endeavor! I admit that I looked at a few other brands before I bought my 997. I really like the Lotus Evora.

POST 6Original post

Best of luck. Sad to hear that you had to take a hit on the sale of your 996.

POST 7Original post

get another 996. Had them all still the best car. M5 if you have to settle. Sorry to hear the dealer got the best of you. Hate dealer/stealers

POST 8Original post

"Congratulations Jake on the Hype/Marketing you put together, it really is crazy that you can have a perfect car but people cant now get past where the IMS has been replaced, irrespective of the condition of the car. I would guess selling a POS with the LN bearing would have been easier than a car in perfect condition without one." I guess its easier to blame Jake than Porsche for a bad design, or the lawyers that won the class action suit against Porsche because they admitted to the problem, or the many magazine articles that pointed out the problems, or the guys that posted here about their cars demise. Blame the guy who offered a way to fix it, it must be him that keeps the prices low after all a dealer would normally give you all you think its worth, maybe even more.

POST 9Original post

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Please.....sounds like you have no idea what you sold. Blame your poor selling on yourself.

POST 10Original post

Buy my 06 997 Carrera S so I can buy another 996...or a 993. ps - I'm hanging out over here since so many of the 996 group are stalking the 997 forum.

POST 11Original post

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But does yours have "Ludicrous" Mode? 0-60 under 3 sec with 1.2g's. Now that is like a jet taking off. The one below is only the "insane" mode. I'm waiting for a "ludicrous" mode updated video. Tesla P85D Insane Mode - Pins phone with 1.2 g's - YouTube

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Sorry but your talking out of your ***, 9 out of 10 people contacting me about the cars first question was regarding the IMS, when told it was original then everyone except the odd few would ask more questions.

POST 13Original post

So you didn't spend the money to retrofit it as the market demands and you sold your car for less as a result. That is, indeed, a crazy result.

POST 14Original post

IMS is generally in the first 1-5 questions a potential buyer brings up when selling a 996.

POST 16Original post

My "ludicrous" button is ESP off? In stock form E55 won't touch the P85D. I am giving up 200 HP and 350 lf-ft of torque and AWD. But, Tesla does not make jet sounds and there is no V8 roar. Also, no flashing /\ through first and half of the second gear. If you put $15k in the E55, you will decimate P85D and virtually everything else. But I could not imagine how crazy the car would feel; I know that in stock form I am having hard time adjusting to acceleration rate and torque. Bone stock ones with sticky tires have gone high 11s in the 1/4 mile at 117/118 mph; for a two ton vault with no discernible sensation of speed it is stupid quick. Weistec Engineering - Supercharged E55 AMG - 10.7 @ 132.9 MPH - YouTube

POST 17Original post

To help others in this difficult situation ,I suggest you point out the value of researching here on Rennlist. Here they will find that there are well over 20 other "Modes of Failure" . So fixating on the IMSB (as I did !) may be misguided. Better to be aware of all the potential issues from a reliable source -your highly respected local Indie for example. No car is fault-free. IMHO the best worry insurance is buying from competent ,honest people and they are often very useful when it comes to selling. How do I know? I have an interest in a Jaguar/Range Rover service/sales business. And you think Porsche has issues???Even BMW does - we work on those too. How to find a competent ,honest Indie? In our (Jar/RR) case - just find out where the big outfits who work on your chosen brand sub out their difficult work. In our case every Jag/RR mechanic in town knows the answer. Best reason ever to avoid the OEM Dealer !Just a suggestion.

POST 18Original post

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Well up here is different. Not that many care about the IMS bearing. Why didn't you sell it to the "odd few"? Or reduce the price by the cost of the bearing replacement +$500. Or sell it under the condition that you will replace it (it's ~$1500). Did you take a bigger hit than $2K from this dealer?

POST 19Original post

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Unfortunately, this is the sad reality and I don't expect members that signed on after 2010 to really understand or have this resonate in any way. It does go both ways though as some of us wouldn't have been able to afford one in the first place. We also know that 996's aren't investments and to treat it like a regular car with regular depreciation. Even though I don't have IXX retrofit now, if I decide to sell it in the future, I will most likely get one done right before I sell it due to the paranoia of your typical buyer these days making it more marketable in this climate.

POST 20Original post

should have found out what the dealer would give you, then offer to a member here at that price plus $500 or $1000. Iim sure there are MANY who would have taken you up on that

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