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YOUR RESEARCHFake DT40?

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cost consideration in the bottling process

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Probably a cost consideration in the bottling process.

Fake DT40?
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Use unless its coming out of a 5 qt jug

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As I said above, the foil is a PIA and totally not needed and not used in any other oil I regularly use unless its coming out of a 5 QT jug.

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The tin foil is probably a left over from the deep dark past when screw on lids weren't all that good.

Fake DT40?

Use unless its coming out of a 5 qt jug

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As I said above, the foil is a PIA and totally not needed and not used in any other oil I regularly use unless its coming out of a 5 QT jug.

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Use unless its coming out of a 5 qt jug

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As I said above, the foil is a PIA and totally not needed and not used in any other oil I regularly use unless its coming out of a 5 QT jug.

Fake DT40?
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cost consideration in the bottling process

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Probably a cost consideration in the bottling process.

Fake DT40?

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The tin foil is probably a left over from the deep dark past when screw on lids weren't all that good.

Fake DT40?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have heard there is such a thing as "fake oil", like counterfit car parts. Is there fake DT40? I had a few bottles left over from last year, and bottles from this year. Last year's bottle had foil seals. This year's did not. Is it possible they are fake? Has anyone else ordered DT40 lately and noticed this change?

POST 2Original post

This is just a change in bottles. I observed the same thing.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 17041125

Good news. Thanks.

POST 4Original post

I�ve been using their GP1 15W 40 and they don�t have the foil seals. They may have decided to forego them as they have a way of introducing themselves into the oil sump which can be very bad for the engine (they tend to wind up blocking the oil pick by getting stuck to the screen).

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 17041125

As usual Environmental concerns...

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 17041125

Same Bout time they got rid of the foil seals.

POST 7Original post

I buy my DT40 from LN Engineering. That way I never have to worry about fake DT40.

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 17041154

Doubtful. More a liability concern, I imagine. A little foil seal being introduced to your engine and saying hello by covering a pick up tube would not be a desired outcome of an oil change.

POST 9Original post

Probably a cost consideration in the bottling process. The tin foil is probably a left over from the deep dark past when screw on lids weren't all that good.

POST 10Original post

The foil chad is a great candidate for FOD contamination when left only thumbed in as is seen in the photo. Fully remove the foil piece and eliminate the possibility it becomes dislodged when pouring the oil and ends up later blocking your pickup. As I said above, the foil is a PIA and totally not needed and not used in any other oil I regularly use unless its coming out of a 5 QT jug. I'm glad Driven is getting away from it.

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 17042328

^^^^^This is the real reason.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Driven has told me they changed to no foil for some products.

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