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I inspected the torque converter and decided to replace it.
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188,728 miles, 1999 C4, MT, Silver over Black, nothing special except to me...I am the 4th owner, purchased in January of 2017, daily driver, I have replaced a bunch of parts 'cause I like wrenching on the engine and I had no history when purchased so have just been working my way through...water pump, thermostat, tensioner pulley, first the regulator then the whole damn alternator, AOS (with the ultimate), coolant reservoir, fuel injectors, coils, plugs, blah blah blah.
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- this was replaced by the PO with a black wheel as the wood started to crack, and I kinda like the look.
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Bought it for $14k sight unseen and w/o maintenance docs or a PPI as a likely project but I've been driving it for the past 2.5 years with just basic maintenance and fun but unnecessary changes (wheels, exhaust, lowering springs & shocks etc).
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Just watched Jake Raby's YouTube video on that subject, I will add regular (every oil change basically) oil analysis and be on look out for any increase in Al and Silicon.
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188,728 miles, 1999 C4, MT, Silver over Black, nothing special except to me...I am the 4th owner, purchased in January of 2017, daily driver, I have replaced a bunch of parts 'cause I like wrenching on the engine and I had no history when purchased so have just been working my way through...water pump, thermostat, tensioner pulley, first the regulator then the whole damn alternator, AOS (with the ultimate), coolant reservoir, fuel injectors, coils, plugs, blah blah blah.
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Bought it sight unseen from a few pics as a roller with a crack in the pan, had it shipped x-counry, fixed it for $150.
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to start a thread about those high mileages (100k+) 996 which
HAVE NOT
blow up (yet) and put their owners upside down financially.
By reading this forum, most threads are full of "horror" stories of broken 996 which make the ownership terrifying in some ways.
I understand, per nature, if nothing happens to your 996 you are less likely to write a post in the forum, but this thread is for
the silent majority (hopefully) which enjoys a fairly trouble-free ownership of their loved 996.
It will be interesting to capture some information:
generation, year, mileage, gearbox, vehicle locations through its life, years of ownership, recent services and one particular detail which makes you love it.
I start, I have a Black over Savannah beige 2002 (mk2) C2 coupe with a 6 speeds. It has 102k miles and I had it since April 2020.
Recent services
: Water pump, thermostat, coolant flush, IMSB (EPS roller bearing with oil feed), RMS, clutch and AOS done at 101k.
Car spend its life between Florida, Savannah back to South Florida. The PO had it since 2007.
It has the PSE from the factory and I love the sound it makes, even in the hot Florida summer I drive with the windows down to hear the rumble.
Damn Rich, that is one of the coolest looking exteriors ever..
I'll go.. I just picked up a 1999 996 C2 , Arctic Silver, 103k ish miles, spent most of its life in Virginia and the area, most recently down in Florida, now back up to Westchester NY where its been sitting in my garage the last few weeks getting all beautified. I'm enjoying doing everything myself so far including oil change, all of the filter replacements, restored the 21 year old lights - Chemical Guys 5 stage process, amazing results! Swapping them for a siiick deal on like new litronics, and still going through it all. Put on a set of new continental extreme contact sports, gave it the ol euro clear corners, annnnndd the Taco style spoiler. The car came with the side skirts and gt3 style front bumper, I just had to complete the trio. The previous owner spent some real money on getting everything addressed, IMS, RMS, new clutch, water pump, starter, and another laundry list of stuff all within the past year. I'm hoping I can just continue to restore it cosmetically, maintain it, and enjoy. I'll post some pictures but i'm still addressing some stuff, so will have to wait for a before and after...
Rich, I LOVE the interior (nephrite green?). I had a chance to buy a low mileage silver with nephrite green when I was first shopping 996s and kick myself for not jumping on it.
1999 996 C4, 135K miles
Manual trans, midnight Blue, space gray interior. One nice feature is that it was highly optioned. (Supple leather, full leather, crested seats, 3-spoke wheel, power seats, aluminum trim package, PCM1, litronic),
Owned 3 years, but I know the previous two owners so I have maintenance history going back 6 years.
Big engine out service 2 owners back for clutch, IMS bearing, AOS, timing chain guides and solenoids at 94k miles.
New Jersey car originally, but in FL for the past 10 years. No major repairs under my watch except for general maintenance (engine mounts, coffin arms, transmission mount, and some minor stuff all DIY friendly). Fixed first gear pop-out issue with Gbox detent.
This shot was coming back from Petit Le Mans last year.
My 2003 C4S just passed 123k miles (purchased from original owner in Oct 2017 at 109k). The original owner took care of the IMS when changing the clutch around 100k miles. I haven't had any issues with the car other than regular wear and tear.
Original owner was an older fellow, so has the comfort options (Bose, leather, etc), but none of the performance options. Still more fun to drive than anything else I've had the pleasure of owning.
I just passed 133'333 miles yesterday on my '99 996 - sport package, LSD, sport seats, 6MT in Arctic Silver with red interior. Bought it at 83k miles, done 50k in 4 years.
The PO was from Tennessee, I've had the car for 4 years. Done tons of maintenance on it - IMS done again 10k miles ago, all cooling hoses replaced, bushings, shocks, mounts, expansion tank, tons of tires, waterpump, aos - but have recently been plagued by cooling issues. Those too shall be resolved, eventually.
my 2003 Arctic Silver Metallic with black leather interior
just passed 104K miles
Purchased from original owner in Dec 2016 in So Cal with 79K miles - took the train down and drove the car home, trial by fire on the 405
3 months ago, replaced Clutch / flywheel, IMS with Solution and RMS, water pump and LT thermostat at 102K (all original)
AOS at about 95K
It has sport seats, PSE and sport suspension, and 2/3rds of an Aero kit (not a wing fan anyway) 6 MT
Pic taken in Carmel during a run up PCH
2002 996 C4S. 98,500, tiptronic, well optioned with full leather and factory carbon fiber trim. Car was sold new in Texas and went to Atlanta and NC. Stayed in TX for the majority and has been serviced by Mayo Performance in Dallas for a long time. PO bought it in early 2019 and had all the items on the PPI addressed at that time (brakes/struts & springs, window reg, hood struts, added hollow spokes, etc.) I just picked it up last month. Going in for IMS and AOS next Tuesday. Also currently shopping for a new wheel set up. Why do I love it? It's a PORSCHE!
I have a 99 C2 with 153k miles and a 99 C4 with 128k miles. I just did the IMS, RMS and AOS on the C4. I had a small oil leak at the RMS, so I did the whole show. I inspected the torque converter and decided to replace it. The C2 had the IMS done at 110k, so that will be done when the clutch goes. Both cars run strong but I amazed how much lighter and more quick steering the C2 feels. The C2 is also a 6 speed which makes it a much more sporty car to drive. My C4 is the commuter car that my kids also drive, in fact my son is learning to drive on the car (boy is he going to be spoiled).
I drive these cars hard and enjoy them alot. The parts are expensive, but they are WAY more reliable and cheaper to operate than the BMW and Mercedes I have owned. Keep up with the oil changes and other maintenance and these cars will provide years of enjoyment without falling off of the depreciation cliff like my AMG did.
Mark
Purchased my 2002 cab with just over 107k on the ODO. I have put about 1000 miles on it in the couple months I have owned it.. There are claims the IMS bearing was done on the car by the guy my seller bought it from. I cannot find the VIN registered in the IMS database so I take the statement with a grain of salt. Previous owner had it 8 years and gave me every receipt he had done on it and none of it was major. I'm going to do a water pump over the winter and all my upgrades have been minor DIY and/or cosmetic (fixed HVAC LCD, Ben's short shifter, factory cell phone delete, detailing). I had it checked out by an indy. Coolant temps are steady and perfect, no misfires, no major codes (aside from the soft top mechanism being rendered partiallly manual and having a fault) and get this - both banks of camshaft deviation were 0.0.
Love the stories ! Keep them coming! It is refreshing to hear about trouble-less cars!
See below mine, as I said it is a 02 C2 with 102k miles.
Also kind of older gentleman specs (except XLF and the 18 light weight wheels)
C02 Equipped with catalytic converter
XLF Sports exhaust system
- no dash switch, always sounds great
601 Litronic (xenon) headlamps
288 Headlamp washer
- removed the fuse after loosing one $60 cover on the road !!
411 18" Carrera 5-spoke wheels
446 Wheel caps with colored Porsche crest
226 Internal production code related to tires - 18" tires
- Not sure about the description
680 Bose sound system (analog)
692 6-disc CD changer Becker Porsche CDC-3
XPC Dark burr maple 3-spoke steering wheel
- this was replaced by the PO with a black wheel as the wood started to crack, and I kinda like the look.
X99 Natural leather interior
936 Leather rear seats
981 Leather dashboard and door panels
983 Leather front seats
999 Internal production code (interior monitoring sensor / cars with individual color interior)
- Not sure about the description
9991 Manufacture from the exclusive-programme
- Not sure about the description
Since these pictures I got all weather Porsche mats from Suncoast, redone the headlights and tints to protect the inside from the Miami sun.
(Pics to come)
Rewind 100 miles
....179,900 km (110,000 miles)
2003 996 C4S, Manual
Bone Stock
Canadian Car
Winter Driven
Gets whatever maintenance it needs
Mobil 1 0w40 most of its life
3rd Owner - some service records
Present Day
- 100 miles later
Original engine starting to tick loudly, borescoped, plenty of scoring, 3.8 rebuild time!
Over 202k miles on my car. No real history but the car runs great on the track and street. Porsche aero11 kit and a glass our repaint from silver to guards red. Bought it sight unseen from a few pics as a roller with a crack in the pan, had it shipped x-counry, fixed it for $150. Now i have a car that is a blast to drive and everything works. Recently replaced the wp, t-stat, all the coolant hoses and put in a uaos.
Just picked up my targa it has about 195k on it cluster was replaced at some point. About 185k engine out, clutch and ims replaces with OEM by previous owner.
been daily driving it put on 2k so far, it�s been blast.
Just hit 138k the other day
99 C2 6 speed. Arctic over black. only real options are power seats, driver memory, draped leather and aluminum look gauges
Original IMS
Clutch done at 100k, AOS shortly before then. Came with a binder full of records
Lived in Connecticut, NYC and now Massachusetts.
Bought it in May of '19, it was cheapest manual coupe around.
Only mods I've done are an eBay short shifter, it had the TechArt front bumper add ons, skirts and spoiler when I bought it.
De-modded crappy aftermarket radio in favor for a CDR220(for now)
I love the analog experience.
'99 C2 118K Miles. Black on Black. Minimally optioned but has the LSD.
Originally sold in Michigan then made it's way to Ohio where I bought it from the PO. Currently resides in Cincinnati.
Purchased 7 years ago with 80K miles for $15K. Immediately replaced RMS/IMS/AOS/Clutch/Flywheel and rear struts.
@90K I replaced water pump, plugs, tubes and ignition coils.
Late Fall every year change oil/filter (has the spin on oil filter adapter) with DT40 and put away for the winter after about 5K miles per year.
Except for the rear struts replaced at 80K still has the original suspension. Creaks over curbs and needs to be replaced.
02 C2 139k miles, purchased in 05 w/42k miles
Options: Basalt black metallic, 5 spoke wheels, Supple leather heated w/ crest, Wind Screen
Mods: PSS9's, 15MM spacers f/r, Fister cans, Front cup splitter
History: Original IMSB & RMS, 2 Waterpumps, 1 Thermostat, 1 Cat, 1 AOS, 1 Filler neck purge valve, 1 Oil fill tube, 1 Headlight switch.
Other than that, regular oil changes, 2 sets of rotors, 4 sets of pads, 1 A/C charge, engine and trans mounts, and tires.....
lots of tires!
15 years now, and the most reliable car I have owned in that time!
As a new potential owner searching for the right car, I love this thread. It's definitely easy to be scared away by the many modes of failure but at the end of the day it's still a smaller percentage when compared to many happy owners. I'm at least still here and searching.
Without any intent to derail this thread, those that had their cars for a while now with higher miles, I'm wondering what your take is on the bore scoring issue? IMS/RMS doesn't scare me any more as if it was going to break it would have by now and many have replaced it as a safe measure. Bore scoring is a bigger issue that could turn into a $20k problem. What's everyone's take? A) OCD / proactive and does a DIY pan drop / bore scope once a year + quality oil changes B) Drive it hard and if it brakes do a rebuid. C) Drive it till the motor goes and then move on.
Pre-purchase bore scope from below
Quality oil with frequent changes
Start it, drive it, stay below 3k rpm til oil is at operating temp, then drive it like you stole it!
Save $ for the unexpected
Just my thoughts
Just watched Jake Raby's YouTube video on that subject, I will add regular (every oil change basically) oil analysis and be on look out for any increase in Al and Silicon.
How about this one for the high mileage class, 320,000 miles and no mention of IMSB changes. 12K price.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/pt...179159082.html
I have a 99 cab in blue with Savannah beige interior metropol blue carpet..duel row, lsd.
i have had it 2 years now and it makes me smile each time I take it out.
odometer reads 104,000 miles. The previous owner turns out gave me sketchy and maybe fake service documents, caused me major panic about a year ago. But as some said, just enjoy it and drive it. I have.
It is due due for an engine out service to give me additional piece of mind and allows me to actually document the work done Incase I decide to sell it down the line.
Yep, original engine and second owner to the car purchased at low miles. Just one IMS/RMS change with the clutch done at 200k miles. Hardly a drop of oil used in between changes either.
It is mostly for peace of mind and for accurate record keeping.
the AOS has not been done. It is a dual row IMS but might as well. New clutch. There was a bit of metal in an oil change, it’s when I realized the previous owners records were sketchy. Rona threw everything for a loop or I would have done it sooner. But I am just enjoying it. The plan is to bore scope it and look at other check points but fully expecting to have the engine out. I have set about 12k for it at this point for the work to be done.
1999 C4, 6MT, Ocean Blue Metallic, sport seats. Now at 153k miles and counting as an almost daily driver. Bought it for $14k sight unseen and w/o maintenance docs or a PPI as a likely project but I've been driving it for the past 2.5 years with just basic maintenance and fun but unnecessary changes (wheels, exhaust, lowering springs & shocks etc). As far as I can tell, original clutch, IMS, AOS, RMS. Water pump looks newer. I just replaced all of the suspension links for a fun COVID-project and was surprised at how well the rubber has held up after 22 years. The pinion bearing in the trans is making the infamous noise so that's likely going to trigger some more intensive maintenance soon...luckily I live just down the road from Gbox.
Just drive it!
188,728 miles, 1999 C4, MT, Silver over Black, nothing special except to me...I am the 4th owner, purchased in January of 2017, daily driver, I have replaced a bunch of parts 'cause I like wrenching on the engine and I had no history when purchased so have just been working my way through...water pump, thermostat, tensioner pulley, first the regulator then the whole damn alternator, AOS (with the ultimate), coolant reservoir, fuel injectors, coils, plugs, blah blah blah. I subscribe to the notion that these engines like to run in the higher RPM's so keeping it below 3k until warm and then I am cruising a 4k min. I change my oil every 4K miles. I LOVE THIS CAR.
I’m interested in having 257 miles remaining on just over half a tank of gas
my car indicates only about 320 miles range on a full tank.
you must drive a lot of highway miles
or you only drive downhill 😀
When I fill up, it shows just a tad above 3/4. When the indicator is at half, I�ve got at least 2/3s left of the tank. And on the highway, 250miles on 2/3s is easily doable.
My hero, that is just flat out amazing tell your Dad to keep going if he ever does a road trip to Florida tell him I will buy him lunch and even a beer
Rich
Rich
good for you! so many people get so uptight about buying a car with PPI, very careful inspection, all records, etc etc. Glad to see there are some people willing to take a risk.
I'd submit that high mileage should be redefined as >150K. Too many cars out there have 100-150K.
Well, I haven't driven the car since around the 350,000 mark. But it was strong and solid back then. It felt great and still does. A few extra suspension creaks but the engine doesn't miss a beat. The car feels like one with 1/4 of the miles except for the sandblasted front end but thats just character, haha.
Just picked this up. Only 2 owners and a lot of history with maintenance, usually at Porsche dealers. Needs a water pump. The other is a 1990 928 S4 that I will be changing timing belt, and all rubber on suspension. Love to do the work on them.....and of course drive them !
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