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Instructors recommend practicing driving techniques on the streets to make them second nature.

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Run pdk/tip do not know how

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funny you mention "getting back into manual", I would wager that most people who run PDK/Tip do not know how to H&T.

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Use twist of the foot

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I too seem to use a twist of the foot to hit the accelerator rather than the heel of my foot.

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Instructors recommend practicing driving techniques on the streets to make them second nature.

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funny you mention "getting back into manual", I would wager that most people who run PDK/Tip do not know how to H&T.

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I too seem to use a twist of the foot to hit the accelerator rather than the heel of my foot.

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However before this car, I HAD to heel/toe to rev match to shift as a couple of my syncro's were out and I was too cheap and lazy to get it fixed for a whole year.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Over all I'm very happy. Needed to give it some deferred maintenance and had a fore/aft seat motor and a window regulator go out...but nothing that might be unusual for an 11 year old car. Next oil change in 5k miles I'll consider the motor and trans mounts if they look tired. Los Angeles finally got some decent rain in the last two days and its been great driving in it. I have quickly figured out how big or little the car is...parking and zigging and zagging through tight spaces is like second nature. The left foot is almost back where it used to be in terms of feel and coordination of the clutch. Heal and toe needs more work. But feeling the car take a set and squeezing on the throttle through the turns is pure joy. I wasn't looking for just another car in a long list of cars, I was looking for a long term keeper and so far all the signs are of a good marriage. After the second week I gave up on car washes...it is more fun doing it myself. Same with waxing and caring for the leather. The car I think about most in comparison to this is the early gull wing 300 SL Mercedes. They could be almost everything...racers and grand touring cars and objects of art...whatever you wanted from it, it would deliver. That is how I feel about this 996. Every time I walk toward it in the garage I feel it is looking at me and I have to smile.

POST 2Original post

I like your posting in praise of the 996 apart from the 'heel and toe needing more work'. You need to practice that kind of driving technique on a race track or rally course, not the streets.

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I feel a facepalm moment coming on but please share with us why should "heel and toe" be reserved for the track?

POST 4Original post

A new episode of Hurdi's Hottakes, a spinoff of the ever popular Hurdi's Hunches! While Hurdi's Hunches focuses on 996 maintenance and repair, in Hottakes, Hurdi shares his views on performance driving techniques and other aspects of Porsche ownership.

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Long term keeper? Last month you were looking for someone on the 993 board to trade with you.

POST 6Original post

LOL KNS, this is just too funny. Unless he is just trolling people, he has to have some sort of issues. Posted on 11/22/2014 by JohnIreland: Let's not worry about price at this stage...I'm just looking for someone who has a 993 C2...prefer 1995...that might like to trade for a 2003 996 C2 w/ 41000 miles and no issues. If someone wants to enter into a serious discussion we can trade pictures and talk. While I like my 996 a lot, I would like to move back in time to a car with fewer electronics and more mechanicals. My old 993 was always fast enough for me, etc. etc. Regards...

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I'm glad Mr. Ireland is starting to fall in love with his 996. Maybe he has been hurt in the past and just needed more time. Nicely provocative title for your thread. I figured you were going to trash your car yet again. Fooled me this time...

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Surprise, surprise! Just wish he would add a few carriage returns to his posts instead of 1 giant paragraph

POST 10Original post

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I feel the same way about my Porsche. Admittedly though, if there was a 300SL Gullwing in my garage, my smile would be a wee bit bigger

POST 11Original post

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"Carriage returns" - wow dating yourself there... (and I'm dating myself for knowing what you're talking about). As for the OP, I would be pretty bummed if I'd sold a 993, hyped up market or not.

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I heel toe all the time, something about the blip turns me on

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middle of the boomers

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I'll chime in with another "Why does heel-toe need to be saved for the track?" Knowing how to drive your car properly can come in handy, even if you're just rolling up to an intersection rocking your finest watch and heavy gold... (man, do I love teasing Hurdi about that quote) The only way to get proficient at heel-toe is to practice - that's a technique you want to develop muscle memory for, so you're not trying to think it through when reality speeds up at the track...

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What he said. You never want to try a new technique at speed on a track.

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^^Or on a highway off ramp or city streets. Find a big parking lot or a very quite road.

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You need one a PC that rings a bell whenever you approach the right-hand margin...

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I would FAR rather drive near someone practicing heel-toe on an offramp or city street than someone composing a text message, or applying eye makeup, or dicking around with the radio station. The heel-toe guy is at least concentrating on his driving, and there isn't nearly enough of that going on today.

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No argument from where I sit in Indiana

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Instructors recommend practicing driving techniques on the streets to make them second nature. Practicing a technique and driving too fast or recklessly are NOT the same thing. Smooth lines through sweeping turns, left foot braking and heel toe are all things that you can easily and safely practice on the street.

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I admit I heel/toe to be a poser and try to get that extra sound out of my tubi's. However before this car, I HAD to heel/toe to rev match to shift as a couple of my syncro's were out and I was too cheap and lazy to get it fixed for a whole year.

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^ Heh. +1. "No, that wasn't just because we're in a tunnel. I'm practicing heel-toe."

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There is nothing wrong with liking both, I'd love to have a nice 993 coupe some day when the bottom drops out!!

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For the right 993 I would still consider the trade. Some of my preferences are just for the simplicity and smaller size compared to the 996. But I don't value the cars based on their transitory market prices...I only value them on the driving experience...and right now the 996 is cutting big chucks out of my nostalgia for my old 993. (paragraph) I drove two 993s before I bought my 996. I offered a Porsche dealer $38k for a 993 with 75k miles. He wanted more, I didn't want to pay more. I also drove a private party 993, much nicer looking than the dealer's, but with more miles and mods that I didn't like the looks of. I unenthusiastically offered $35k and thankfully the seller did not accept. A year or so ago I offered the owner of my old 993 $26k, based on KBB. He wanted much much much more. So in the end I paid more than the prices bandied about here for my 996...but much less than any 993s I considered. (paragraph) As for heel and toe technique...the positioning of my right foot on the throttle is different in the 996 from any other car I've driven. Usually the heel of my foot has been about half way between the brake and throttle but in my 996 my foot just seems to want to be flat on the throttle with my heel right in line with it and at its base. When I brake I don't move my foot, just reach over with the ball of my foot and step on the middle peddle. So when bringing up the revs, the part of my foot pressing on the throttle and where it is pressing is new to me. Maybe on something like the Streets of Willow I can find both the speed and rpms that will let my foot find a more efficient position and settle in. Until then I'll just work my way through it.

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that gave me a good laugh I heal/toe with the Tip

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I actually like to practice heel/toe technique when driving on the street if the conditions are right. Fortunately I can find the right conditions pretty easily with the curvy mountain roads around my house. Here's a good video with Hurley Haywood talking about heel/toe techniques: Porsche 911 GT3 with Hurley Haywood - Heel/Toe Shift Lesson - YouTube

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Huh? I H&T all day in every day traffic, it is part of my normal driving. Learnt on public roads too, you don't necessarily have to push it all the time to use some of the more advanced track techniques in every day driving.....

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Too much talking, here is Senna with a demonstration: Ayrton Senna's Heel-and-toe - YouTube

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Actually I moved the center of the heel of my right foot between 1.5 and 2 inches to the left and this made heel and toeing as easy as in my previous cars. Moved the seat rearward just slightly to make it more comfortable. It was watching video of Senna at Monaco that convinced me to sell my previous car and get back into a manual transmission. Hand washing the car is also a learning experience...sort of a relaxed tech inspection.

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I do not seem to have enough flexibility in my feet, so I position my foot almost half way between accelerator and it is more of a twist than heel and toe. The heel never touches the pedal, the right hand side does the "heel" bit. funny you mention "getting back into manual", I would wager that most people who run PDK/Tip do not know how to H&T. To all the haters, I did say "MOST", so don't bother flaming.

POST 34Original post

Between my previous E36 M3 and the 996, I'd say the 996 is better suited for heel-toe shifting, although the M3 was pretty good and that didn't cost a fortune along with IMS problems and whatnot.

POST 35Original post

Man, gotta love Rennlist. I don't think I've come across too many threads this year where the original topic stayed on target.

POST 36Original post

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I too seem to use a twist of the foot to hit the accelerator rather than the heel of my foot. In prior conversations I've had about this it seemed that this was the way most people do it. In fact, it looks like Senna is doing it somewhat in the video. Regarding your slam on Tip/PDK ownership, it has nothing to do with whether a person knows how to heel/toe. That seems like an unnecessary and sweeping generalization that adds nothing to the conversation.

POST 37Original post

My feet are more than a foot long and several inches wide - so "heel/toe" for me is also accomplished with a twist. Glad I found something these clodhoppers are useful for...

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wasn't really slamming, it is up to the individual whether you want to heel and toe or not, or even learn it, I know lots of drivers who prefer manuals and don't H&T, some even have no idea that it exists. However in my opinion, H&T makes driving much more enjoyable, I just love that feeling of being in complete control of the machine, and not the other way round. What would be interesting is to see how many people left foot brake, something I have never got the hang of, probably due to not understanding it properly.

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With 16 5E I can just position the center of my foot on the brake and wiggle my toes for the clutch and throttle. I twist my foot also. Ball on brake, outside on throttle. The finesse with this method is to keep constant pressure on brake while twisting to blip. Practice on an empty street.

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you just jinxed it.....BOOBIES.

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