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2002 C4S Rattle of Doom - hope not

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YOUR RESEARCH2002 C4S Rattle of Doom - hope not

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Install exhaust

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Just rained and I went out to the garage to start her up to listen to my newly installed exhaust.

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Check ignition coils

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Took it to the shop and told them to replace the spark plugs (due) and check the coils.

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Replace every 3 years, ims retrofit every 5

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FYI, water pump and AOS were recommended to me to be replaced every 3 years, IMS retrofit every 5.

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Replace of them

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Two were cracked so they replaced all of them.

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Run code and it was a misfire

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Ran the code and it was a misfire.

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Run like crap

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Mine ran like CRAP with just one cracked coil - it feels very ominous and expensive.

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Check ignition coils

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Took it to the shop and told them to replace the spark plugs (due) and check the coils.

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Install exhaust

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Just rained and I went out to the garage to start her up to listen to my newly installed exhaust.

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Replace cat

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replaced a cat?

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Replace every 3 years, ims retrofit every 5

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FYI, water pump and AOS were recommended to me to be replaced every 3 years, IMS retrofit every 5.

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Replace of them

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Two were cracked so they replaced all of them.

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Replace spark plugs (due)

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Took it to the shop and told them to replace the spark plugs (due) and check the coils.

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Replace with a fabspeed x-pipe paired

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66,000 miles, no IMS remediation done (yet - will now if i get the chance, sitting here regretting i didn't do it earlier) - I have had 3 996s in the past 9 years but never subscribed to the hype, probably as my major and only issue between these cars has been a failing driver side CAT on this one last year that i joyfully replaced with a fabspeed x-pipe paired with a competition warm air intake (great sound) love the set up.

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Run code and it was a misfire

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Ran the code and it was a misfire.

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Run like crap

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Mine ran like CRAP with just one cracked coil - it feels very ominous and expensive.

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Run very rough

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In the garage I observed some rattling and shaking noises and the engine ran very rough.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Today was supposed be an exciting day. I had just purchased my long awaited PSS10 Bilstein coilovers and have been waiting for an appointment for 3 weeks with Powertech Porsche to install and align. Thank you 996 Shark for a smooth delivery! Additionally we were putting in new Wevo Engine Mounts and Function First Trany mounts getting ready for the season. Saturday morning however my beloved Pcar made other plans Started her up drove 1 mile and got the dream we all don't dream about the miserable flashing Check Engine Light and Visit Workshop warning to let me know my car means business. Uturn and straight home. In the garage I observed some rattling and shaking noises and the engine ran very rough. Entire car shaking uncharacteristicly but couldn't precisely make out the rattle as engine of just sport exhaust being loud and annoying. So she is off to he mechanic to read codes, while I hope for the best. Off to Hershey in my 1984 911 this weekend. Keep you posted let's hope it's the coil pack.

POST 2Original post

Could just be a misfire due to bad coil packs, let's hope so.

POST 3Original post

How many miles on your car? Any preventative IMSB measures taken previously? I may be mistaken, but I'm not sure if an IMSB failure normally sets off a CEL. Remember the 97% rule: 97% of the stuff we worry about never actually happens.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

66,000 miles, no IMS remediation done (yet - will now if i get the chance, sitting here regretting i didn't do it earlier) - I have had 3 996s in the past 9 years but never subscribed to the hype, probably as my major and only issue between these cars has been a failing driver side CAT on this one last year that i joyfully replaced with a fabspeed x-pipe paired with a competition warm air intake (great sound) love the set up. Have been meaning to do it for 2 years but just never got it around to it - my bad hope it doesn't cost me an engine rebuild.. Sitting here thinking 800 dollars from suncoast and some labor hours for the retrofit... should have done it ages ago for that peace of mind. here is hoping for the 97% rule

POST 5Original post

replaced a cat? how was the oil consumption before?

POST 6Original post

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Once the cam timing is way off from IMSB failure it will misfire causing the flashing CEL. (ChangeEngineLight)

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Maybe half a quart every 3-4 months... come to think of it I don't remember the last time I had to add top her off.

POST 8Original post

Couple years ago washed car and put in garage (6 months after rebuild of engine with new IMSB). Huge snowstorm came and car sat for several weeks. Started it and it made the clatter from hell noise, ran rough, no power, etc. Put car away for a few days and calmed down. Went back out and started the car and all was right with the world. Attributed to water where is should not be. Point of story is don't panic. Many smaller things can cause the problems and this is much more probable than a complete engine failure.

POST 9Original post

Good luck. I hope it's just coil packs. My 2002 C4S had very similar symptoms when I had a coil pack failure. Was it a damp or rainy day?

POST 10Original post

Have been meaning to do it for 2 years but just never got it around to it - my bad hope it doesn't cost me an engine rebuild.. Sitting here thinking 800 dollars from suncoast and some labor hours for the retrofit... should have done it ages ago for that peace of mind. here is hoping for the 97% rule [/QUOTE] I waited 3 years and did mine last month at 81k miles. I'm with you in not wanting to get sucked in by all the hype but admit there is some truth to the issue but much over blown. That being said a $20k rebuild would mean bye-bye 996 so I made the investment in a LN Pro Single Row. Hope your issue is something else (probably is) so you can stop procrastinating and get it done. Best of luck.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Yes it actually was she sat outside for a few days in the rain, and it drizzling here on Saturday as well.

POST 12Original post

Hopefully it's just some cracked coil packs. Mine ran like CRAP with just one cracked coil - it feels very ominous and expensive. Good luck.

POST 13Original post

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Stop panicking Sounds like it's just your coils based on that and your description.

POST 14Original post

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Same conditions when my coil packs failed. They had cracks that allowed moisture into the coils.

POST 15Original post

Good luck! As the others have said, don't panic yet. When my engine went it took all of about 5 seconds to destroy itself and stop running. You probably wouldn't be able to drive a mile with IMSB failure. Hopefully it's something else.

POST 16Original post

Sounds like coil packs. Same thing happened to me a while back. Just rained and I went out to the garage to start her up to listen to my newly installed exhaust. Rough idle, shaking and then the check engine light. Buzz kill. Ran the code and it was a misfire. Took it to the shop and told them to replace the spark plugs (due) and check the coils. Two were cracked so they replaced all of them. Back in business. I'm assuming you didn't check the codes with a reader before sending it off to the shop?

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yup send it off to the shop and the good news is as you guys all suspected. Coil packs. Getting them all replaced and getting the spark plugs done as well. Going to do to the IMS retrofit now promised myself no more messing around with the M96 engine. Last but not least going back to my original plan to install the PSS10 coilovers, Wevo Engine mounts and trany mounts. All shall be right in a few weeks . Thank you!!!!

POST 18Original post

FYI, water pump and AOS were recommended to me to be replaced every 3 years, IMS retrofit every 5.

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