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YOUR RESEARCHSmoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

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Replace i don't think the aos

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I don't think the AOS has been replaced.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?
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Check oil

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Also, an internally cracked AOS can release a great deal of coolant into the engine, usually found by checking the oil for water or a rise in oil level.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?
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Still, I agree with others that the AOS is prime suspect #1.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Check oil

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Also, an internally cracked AOS can release a great deal of coolant into the engine, usually found by checking the oil for water or a rise in oil level.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Replace air oil separator

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How expensive is it to replace the AOS?

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Replace aos three weeks ago

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My Indy charged me $966 to replace my AOS three weeks ago.

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Also, an internally cracked AOS can release a great deal of coolant into the engine, usually found by checking the oil for water or a rise in oil level.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Replace air oil separator

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How expensive is it to replace the AOS?

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Replace aos three weeks ago

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My Indy charged me $966 to replace my AOS three weeks ago.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Replace aos/

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http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...o-replace-aos/

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Replace i don't think the aos

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I don't think the AOS has been replaced.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?

Run engine

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You need to avoid running the engine to avoid the risk the AOS dumping so much oil into the intake that one or more cylinders suffer from hydraulic lock up.

Smoke from drivers side tailpipe when started cold?
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Still, I agree with others that the AOS is prime suspect #1.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi Everyone. My '99 996 automatic/tiptronic, puts out quite a bit of smoke out of the drivers side tailpipe when it is started cold. The smoke stops once it has warmed up. The car has 34,000 miles and has been well cared for. I'm sure others have seen this. What is the typical cause? Is this something that has to be addressed right away or can I leave it alone. The oil and coolant levels don't seem to be dropping as far as I can tell. Let me know what you think.

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does your car behave like the one in the video? if yes, you need a new AOS Porsche 996 air oil separator - YouTube

POST 3Original post

Remember, the drivers side tailpipe is the right bank, 4-6. The AOS port dumps on that bank. Maybe AOS failing? Miles? Has it been changed?

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the quick replies. I don't think the AOS has been replaced. We are at least the 3rd owner (another family member was the previous owner). It's 17 years old and has 34,000 miles. I'll check to see if the air vacuum exists as demonstrates in the video. How expensive is it to replace the AOS?

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Quotes source post: 13202749

depends if you DIY, indy or dealer? for a TIP, engine may need to be dropped. good time to address other "while you are in there" items like IMSB, RMS, etc. http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...o-replace-aos/

POST 6Original post

My Indy charged me $966 to replace my AOS three weeks ago. Mine just completely let go with no warnings. My car is a 3.6 though, and a manual so no engine drop.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just finished 3 hours of highway driving so there hasn't been any smoke since the engine got hot. I left the engine running and twisted off the oil cap (as demonstrated in the video). There was a suction sound as I took the cap off and the engine idled/sounded differently, but still no smoke. I'm not sure if this is normal (the suction when the oil cap is removed). I'll try taking off the oil cap again when I start it cold tomorrow.

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Quotes source post: 13202907

sounds like your car "PASSED" the bad AOS test. another DIY test is via a slack tube manometer https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-symptoms.html

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Quotes source post: 13202907

The oil cap being hard to impossible to remove when the AOS is bad is not 100% reliable. The AOS may not have failed enough or there can be a AOS failure mode that doesn't result in generating the huge pressure difference. That there was some suction and the engine reacted is normal as removing this cap creates a big air leak. Still, I agree with others that the AOS is prime suspect #1. While the miles are *not* huge -- I get around 80K to 100K miles from an AOS with my 2002 (300K mile) Boxster -- your car is old enough the AOS can have just failed due to age. You need to avoid running the engine to avoid the risk the AOS dumping so much oil into the intake that one or more cylinders suffer from hydraulic lock up. Get the car to a qualified shop for proper diagnosis and repair.

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No knocking. It runs smoothly. Why? What would knocking indicate?

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+996 Porsche 996/986/997/987 Scored Liner Noise , Piston Slap - YouTube

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What is the differential diagnosis for a bad AOS vs bore scoring? Anything else I should be thinking about?

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AOS - replace and drive on. Bore scoring - your engine is toast. If it is just smoking from the tailpipe, like bluish smoke..AOS (Air Oil Separator). Also, an internally cracked AOS can release a great deal of coolant into the engine, usually found by checking the oil for water or a rise in oil level. Either way, bad. New AOS

POST 16Original post

That's how I 1st noticed my scoring issues. ..blue smoke coming out of the LHS tail pipe.

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