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After 17k of ownership in my car I have changed the following
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If you can find someone with the unlimited Durametric version, that's a great resource for seeing if the installed systems are functioning properly, to check for over-revs, and to see if the operating hours seems inappropriate for the number of miles on the car.
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I did a carfax on mine, called some indie shops and dealerships near where car was registered, found previous owners (from canadian used car package) and managed to get service history from a reputable shop.
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I later found the original owner - he barely used the car, leaving it in a garage for weeks at a time, which explained why it was 3 years later still in essentially new condition
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What this means to you, are the offers we’re accepting for our new and used inventory are pretty much unheard of.
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If you can find someone with the unlimited Durametric version, that's a great resource for seeing if the installed systems are functioning properly, to check for over-revs, and to see if the operating hours seems inappropriate for the number of miles on the car.
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If you can find someone with the unlimited Durametric version, that's a great resource for seeing if the installed systems are functioning properly, to check for over-revs, and to see if the operating hours seems inappropriate for the number of miles on the car.
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A good inspection - and a little detective work as far as looking out for stuff that is obviously neglected as well as stuff that is far too clean/perfect for something its age - factor in at least as much as the Carfax and other "reliable" sources of information.
Recommend treating each failure point as a consumable maintenance item
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As with any used luxury/sports car out of warranty the penalty for failure is pretty high so I would recommend treating each failure point as a consumable maintenance item.
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The next email I received from them just made me run away ha ha "Our team is furiously trying to hit our quota this month, because it means a great deal to us and our dealership.
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What is the best way to research a 996 with little records? Just curious Looking at a Carfax shows some history with most of the mileage early in its life and tapering off later in its life. Car has about 54k miles and a non Porsche dealer has it(have not contacted them), not ready to buy but would like to be well informed.
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Unless you happen to hit paydirt on a forum with the license/VIN, your options are fairly limited.
Not every car with no records is a lemon, and not every car that is meticulously document is going to be the peach it's made out to be. A good inspection - and a little detective work as far as looking out for stuff that is obviously neglected as well as stuff that is far too clean/perfect for something its age - factor in at least as much as the Carfax and other "reliable" sources of information. Take a look at the engine serial number; you'll be able to tell if it has been replaced by the factory. If you can find someone with the unlimited Durametric version, that's a great resource for seeing if the installed systems are functioning properly, to check for over-revs, and to see if the operating hours seems inappropriate for the number of miles on the car.
If you do buy the car, spend a few minutes looking in the door pockets and under the seats to see if something with the previous owner's address is on it - if you get lucky, send the previous owner a letter and ask for details. They might blow you off; they might not.
I was able to find the previous owners on pcar car purchases. Once I had that information I mailed or emailed them asking to share info. The Porsche world has been very good to me, most people are more than happy to share and talk about their car. I've been contacted by owners of cars that I've owned and been happy to fill in the blanks.
My own personal opinion. Buy from an enthusiast when possible.
Best of luck with the search.
Yes I am aware of PPI having owned a 914 and SC 911 that started my Porsche ownership. Just seeing the best way to research before a PPI is done to make sure its worth it. Im being very specific on what I am looking for and options on the car, which narrows down the cars out there to a very few.
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Often times the maintenance log book has been consistently filled out with every service performed - check to see if the book is with the car if it has stamps from a shop call the shop and ask for details
Yep. I found an invoice in the owner's manual for my 996. I searched the name via Google and found an email address. Sent the guy an email, and he responded with his phone number. Called him and got a good history on the car. Very nice guy.
Did a similar thing on a Lexus, called the previous owner, and he was a total a-hole.
+1 on doing some detective work. I did a carfax on mine, called some indie shops and dealerships near where car was registered, found previous owners (from canadian used car package) and managed to get service history from a reputable shop.
One car I walked away from was as at random car dealer. He claimed a whole bunch of service, but could only show a receipt for some suspension work. I ran carfax and did some leg work but could not find out anything about the car. Since it wasn't in visibly great condition I walked away because the sale price didnt reflect the extra money I assumed it may need in immediate maintenance.
Any car from a random dealer I would definitely get a PPI from someone qualified other than 'their guy'.
"Did a similar thing on a Lexus, called the previous owner, and he was a total a-hole"
No surprise there - Lexi owners (except any RLers of course) tend to be dumbazzes
Anytime you can talk to the Previous Owner, it's probably going to provide a lot of good info.
I bought my C2 from a dealer (it was a CPO car; the dealer had missed some pretty glaring cosmetic things that they promptly rectified).
I later found the original owner - he barely used the car, leaving it in a garage for weeks at a time, which explained why it was 3 years later still in essentially new condition
I bought the GT3 from a RLer (after a PPI).
Without dealer records it is tough. My car was well documented although there were some question marks. As with any used luxury/sports car out of warranty the penalty for failure is pretty high so I would recommend treating each failure point as a consumable maintenance item. Also factor In replacing anything hard to get to while you are in there. Even at 54k miles I would be planning on probably 5-7k in preventative or needed repairs if you aren't a DIY guy.
Here are the things that should be replaced as a PM item vs a "failure then replace"
Cooling system- water pump, expansion tank, cap, hoses, fluid
AOS- causes all kinds of nastiness if you let it fail
Clutch- if no records clutch is probably due and perhaps flywheel
IMS- every time you do a clutch (40-60k)
Suspension- shocks/struts, bushings probably due
Brakes- probably due
Thanks for the advice guys, just seeing if anything has changed in the Porsche research world....I contacted the dealer to see what they had to say.....No history, asked for photo of the sticker on the front to see what options the car had, the dealer said no sticker but took a photo of the stickers in the rear engine area. The next email I received from them just made me run away ha ha "Our team is furiously trying to hit our quota this month, because it means a great deal to us and our dealership. What this means to you, are the offers we’re accepting for our new and used inventory are pretty much unheard of. Please call me today, and we can schedule a time for you to come in for a no-hassle, priority test drive."
No thanks...
you have to call porsche, get the options with the vin, get the service dept to look up all the warrantee service. see where the car was serviced. try to call those dealers and ask about it. then all you can do is look at carfax, and have it inspected for yourself. there isnt any other magic methods to research a car.
Www.vindecoderz.com
This site is pretty handy when you are on the hunt. Not much info on the MY99s but will list full options and MSRP for most everything newer.
Has anyone else used this site and found that the "approximate mileage" is way off from actual? I'm curious if they post an average mileage based on age of the vehicle or are pulling from some direct source?
After 17k of ownership in my car I have changed the following
1. Coolant expansion tank (was leaking), if its yellow, you must change it since they crack..
2. Clutch, Pressure plate, TO Bearing, RMS, IMS inspection & removal of outer seal, Flywheel bolts, IMS flange bolts, etc.
3. Tires
4. Front Brake pads
5. 3 oil changes
6. 60k maintenance items (sparkplugs, fuel filter, air filter, cabin filter, etc)
7. Rebuild the coilover suspension (H&R) by deltavee motorsports
Right now my car is sitting at 69k miles and clutch was changed at 68k
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