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The new 911 is filled with more do-dads that do nothing (but cost money) in terms of the classic Porsche driving experience.
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Just need Gator to post some sample pics...The more recent ones may have more "technology" installed than the "classic" models.
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Majority of the little ***** on the steering wheel are meant to be pressed before setting off and driving.
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I'm keeping the GTI as it is great fun to drive and often has practical uses for the 4 doors.
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Let me start with the conclusion. The new 911 is filled with more do-dads that do nothing (but cost money) in terms of the classic Porsche driving experience. All this I gleemed at the local Porsche Dealer dog and pony show last night.
The New 911 Pros: The hot baristas in the very tight and very short little black dresses and high high heals were worth the trip. I could hear my prostate grumbling back to life. And the car was a pretty color. Also the New Porsche 911 rear end has more signage than the King James Bible, all to make sure that you don't forget you are driving Porsche 911 Carrera 4S.
The New 911 Cons: Where to begin...the first thing I noticed as I slid into the seat was that there was a cute little button to make your exhaust sounded sexier. And there was another cute buttom to raise the front of the car an inch or so incase your driveway was too steep.
There was also a video screen that you had better try to navigate before you are driving, otherwise you will surely crash trying to find you favorite radio station amongst the stock reports and tire monitors and maps and all the other distractions.
The sport chrono functions have been multiplied so that it can't be done with just a single button, you must now turn a little wheel on your steering wheel...of course you have to consider taking one hand off the wheel and maybe one eye off the road to see if you are chosing Normal mode, Sport mode, Dead Movie Star mode, or a fourth mode that you get to program yourself...perhaps Apple mode.
(I remember how simple it was in the RS America...I just decided how fast I wanted to drive.)
To learn more about the car I had to watch the videos that surrounded the room. Yes...the car looks like it can go fast. How much faster and where I will leave for each to judge on their own. But based on the smiling couple in the video, the New 911 is not only very very fast, you don't even have to look at the road...you just smile at each other and let Porsche do the rest.
However remember that you still have to unswitch the instant on and off feature of your new Obama-engine...yes goodbye Mezger engines, hello Obama-green. And yes the New 911 is about the size of the New Camaro. And yes the seats are 18-way adjustable even though your body is not.
And the New 911 has auto-activated air vents at the front of the car that opened and closed to improve...something. Plus rear wheel steering so you can avoid trees in the middle of the road and also get in and out of tight parking spaces.
There was no mention of what happens if your 19 or 20 inch tires gets punctured...the video didn't show the smiling couple waiting for 3 hours until a triple A flatbed could get to them. Nor did it show them figuring out how to squeeze the bottle of goop into the tire and then reinflate the tire with the little air pump.
In the end I had to wonder about how much battery juice all these do-dads were eating up each night in the garage. And I wondered what the replacement costs were for all the new parts that made the back wheels turn this way and that...and what happens if it breaks while your rear wheels are turned to the left or right...or if the sport exhaust button gets stuck in the sexy mode and your wife starts wondering if you're flirting with some girl at the office...or if the switch that raised up the front of the car gets stuck in the up position so that your Porsche looks like a leaping low rider...and then it was time to leave and drive home in my 16 year old 996.
All I had to do was get in and drive. All it said on the back was Carrera.
Plus...I could just keep the 996 and drive it until the end of time and still have money left for one night with a barista in a short tight black dress.
I remember a tv show call The Shock of the New. I left the dealership last night thinking of The Schlock of the New.
Porsche isn't in the business of preserving outdated technology. Porsche is in the business of selling cars. They are in the business of selling SUVs too. People who are willing to part with a six figure sum of money are the people who want new technology.
The great news for some people is that old technology is available right now, for a low price.
This post reminds me of the air cooled "purists" who bashed on the 996 when it first came out....To drive a 911 is to be a 911 fan forever....Don't matter what model it is...
@Johnireland
You are the guy that sold his 996 to buy a 997, and after a short amount of time, then sold the 997 for a Volkswagen GTI if I recall?
And btw, the sports exhaust is a blast, between the sound, throttle mapping etc it's a lot of fun.
Do you still get upset about "them" putting ABS in your car?
Great write up! It's amazing what they've done to make these cars even faster but I sure like the simplicity of the one I have. I only have one question though, where in the heck is the barista picture?!?!!
I was invited to that same dog and pony show. There is a lot to like about new Porsche sports cars!! I like new Porsche sports cars - they do a lot of things really well, and they are really fast and entertaining... a lot to like!
However, I didn't make it... Instead, got up at 4:30 to head out to the Festival of Speed in the rain, in my 996.1 and having the time of my life.....
Although, I DO regret missing the hot baristas....
I drove a 991.1 c2s the other day. I would never buy one. I own a 996 and love 997s (not to mention the older cars) but the new car has lost all of its character. I totally agree with the dash and controls being to busy for ANY car but especially a sports car and even more so a 911. Seems to have very little to do with what makes 911s great. But it is fast and is very civil and drivable.
That's the Johnny I , we've come to know and love! Nice writing, but a few photo's would certainly help the narrative... I was in my local Porsche dealership a few weeks ago while they were banging me for $450 for an alignment and providing the worst customer service ever (no hot barista's or anything, and they broke my window regulator and then refused to fix it...that's another story). Anyway, the new cars are beautiful, just different...and VERY expensive! Progress? I don't know, ask the air-coolers what they think.
One of this days I hope I can write like him, going back to the post, I have no problem with technology, a friend of mine show me his 2015 GTS, love the space the comfort, and the handling, the only thing I dearly miss is the bar for the hand brake, that little button looks stupid.
Well I think I'm getting old!!!!
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I came here for the pics of the hot baristas in short skirts. I leave disappointed...
But back on topic, I'd like to have one of each generation in my garage if I could. They're all unique so depending on my mood I might prefer technology or in other cases simplicity.
Each generation of Barista in their prime? Sounds good to me. Just need Gator to post some sample pics...The more recent ones may have more "technology" installed than the "classic" models.
I disagree. For the Baristas I would think the older models have more technology involved in their appearance. I guess technology is the wrong term. I should say after market mods. Which I guess would be similar to 911's. The older the more mods.
I just confused myself with this post
You may be correct but as opposed to 911's, the Barista's of each generation probably still have the same number of ***** and buttons...The leather may have more of a "gathered" look on the older models though unless much Lexol was used. (Now I'm skirting dangerously close to Buffalo Bill-isms and had best stop here before Precious ends up in the basket again...)
Yes, everything you say I did is true. If I could go back to my first 996, my life would be so much simpler. Even driving a manual trans with a sprained left ankle I could make it through...more or less. But its gone and that's it. I've already described my love hate catagories of the 997...no point in repeating it. I'm keeping the GTI as it is great fun to drive and often has practical uses for the 4 doors. My current 996 is a 2000 tip cab and I'm very happy with it. I find the stock exhaust much more pleasant than the sport flatulence.
I can be very agressive with my brakes...and yet I never activate the ABS. My race cars never had ABS and I never missed it with them. As for throttle mapping, my brain, the seat of my pants, and my right foot seem to get the job done in a way I find far more satisfying.
Very well written. I feel that Porsche has for the most part focused on newer generation of buyers rather than keeping old car owners happy. Most older car owners tend to gravitate towards purchasing nothing but air cooled cars or water cooled cars. Majority of people who purchase a 991.1 or 991.2 don't track the car as often as someone who has a older car. The new cars are very very pretty cars and very very fast ones. But they are HUGE CARS! I drove one and had it for 2 days. Blast to drive. But just way to bulbous. Majority of the little ***** on the steering wheel are meant to be pressed before setting off and driving. But I get what you're saying that it's a distraction.
