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BTW I also replaced all the rubber bits in the front when I installed the Bilsteins.
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BTW I also replaced all the rubber bits in the front when I installed the Bilsteins.
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I use the car for long trips and twisty mountain roads .
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I was lucky enough to find a used pair because they are very nice for adjusting caster for 245/645/18 slicks
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Did you adjust rebound etc first track day to see what felt best?
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You can select a package here and add and remove items you want but I recommend talking with Ira and he can put a package together for the conditions you drive and the type of driver you are within a budget.
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When I first put the car back on the ground it was too low for my taste, so I had the alignment shop set the ride height for me just this week and had them bring the car back up ten mm (somewhere between ROW and ROW Sport) and into alignment.
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I want to rebuild the suspension to a track/pro street set up , everything else I'll leave stock, but underneath I want the best of the best, please advise Us some set ups.
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I broke a front strut on my 2001 996 coupe. Looking upgrading entire suspension system since I have to fix part of it anyways. Local shop is pushing bilstein pss10. Anyone have thoughts on these and/or other options?
I had H&R suspension on my BMW but this is a porsche....
I'd expect a lot of people to chime in on this. It might be helpful for you to describe a) what uses you're considering (street, autocross, DE, all-out track car) and b) assuming it's a street car, what your local roads are like.
FWIW, H & R makes various coilovers for the 996. IIRC, there was a recent thread about their Street Performance product.
Thanks for the note. I'm trying to build a great street/highway car. No track days planned.
As for roads, New England's best pot holed and cracked pavement, usually greater Boston, down to New Haven, CT and up to Portsmouth, NH.
some may say it's overkill, but you can't go wrong with
adjustable coilovers
lower the car a bit, consider sways
if you just happen to 'wind up' at a track, oh well !!
I'm doing the same with mine also. I want to rebuild the suspension to a track/pro street set up , everything else I'll leave stock, but underneath I want the best of the best, please advise Us some set ups.
For my track car, I got a Tarret package with JRZ RS Pros. Not cheap but it is the best. You can select a package here and add and remove items you want but I recommend talking with Ira and he can put a package together for the conditions you drive and the type of driver you are within a budget.
http://www.tarett.com/items/un-assig...y-1-detail.htm
Yes, this is what I've been looking for, outstanding! Tell me now, so Club A is a excellent choice, so the pro pkg is most interesting. So you can tune the pro for going to get groceries in a sprited manner? ?
Ohlins Road & Track gives you a lot of bang for the money.
I personally like that they are one-way adjustable. Makes it easy to quickly find the perfect balance for every situation. With more adjustability options the amount of possibilities get quickly too complicated for the non-pro tracker in order to find the sweet spot.
Smoother ride as stock when dialed in less firm.
For the OP, coilovers are overkill. The stock suspension on these are very fun, even on the track. PSS10 are good road/track combo shocks but gain you nothing in a road only scenario. The Tarett JRZ package is the suspension package for the SP996 race cars. It's a great package on the track, but once again, not on the road. I would look at going back with stock or, if you want something a little firmer, the US M030 996 package. You can also just go with a new set of Koni struts and come out pretty well.
Hot, I would look at Feal for a good set of combo coilovers. Specifically because you can tell them what you are doing and they will custom build the spring rate and valving. This is huge! If you are looking to shave seconds on the track, the difference between a good and great shock is minimal compared to other places you can spend your money.
Guys I want to spend around 8k + or - on a kit. I want the underside of my car to be the best of the best, like jewelry when I'm looking at it. So please keep some advice and product feedback coming and showing and pictures of your set up. Thanks
Nice Indeed, I like this!!! Thanks for the pictures, take care of that jeweler, I was looking at torque solutions everything then Those coil over mentioned above look good, the feal
I'm open to any suggestions, I was at the race shop where my car is being built, I looked underneath several race cars that was on a lift, It was beautiful, everything was shiny and colorful and amazing. So I feel in love, so did my 996 cause she was on the ground gandering underneath those old girls skirts, cause I had my hands all in there glory.
@ Slak ... very much in line with my thinking when I suggested to the OP that he clarify his intent for the car.
@ OP ... around here in Upstate NY, many of our secondary roads are lousy with potholes, and even some of our highways aren't very smooth. I'm in the process of upgrading my car to Koni FSD's, which I think will work well on our bumpy roads. What I'm hoping -- BTW, my car is street only -- is to get a little bit firmer handling while maintaining or improving compliance over uneven pavement. There's no way I would lower my car very much, given local road conditions. I had considered US M030 or maybe RoW M030, but nothing more extreme than that.
I have the h&r street performance coilovers , matching h&r swaybars at both ends and critically street powerflex Poly bushes everywhere . ( these cars are of an age where bushes should be done)
This is an excellent performance street set up , and is quite a bit less than the pss10s .
The h&r sp coilovers are bilstein based but only adjustable for height .
They are very well set up , and unless I was tracking the car a lot I don't really see the need for fully adjustable ones .
I use the car for long trips and twisty mountain roads . And some boring daily driver work . They are fine even on Canadian roads
I had mo30 row previously and this is a much better set up.
I really like the h&r sp units , and they are made in Germany so are better quality than cheaper offshore units.
Here is my suspension list I put together when I was going to sell my track car. The prices are for new though I bought most of the pieces off of RL Classifieds.
* JRZ Cup 3-way adjustable Shocks with remotes ($10k) – The cup shocks are more heavy-duty but the rears are too short. So I custom fabbed an aluminum spacer to extend them and they work very well.
* Eibach main and helper springs ($650)
* Tarett Front Monoball Camber Plates ($450)
* Tarett Rear Monoball Shock Mounts ($435)
* Tarret Rear Droplink Bracket – ($250)
* GT3 Sway Front and Rear Adjustable sway bars ( $1100)
* Tarett Front and Rear adjustable drop links ($450)
* GT3 Lower control arms with solid thrust bushing and monoball subframe mounts ($2750) –
* GMG Front Adjustable Thrust Arms ($900) – These are ridiculously expensive. I was lucky enough to find a used pair because they are very nice for adjusting caster for 245/645/18 slicks
* Tarett Rear Toe Control Arms ($400)
* GMG Rear Upper Control Arms ($1050) – again, the GMG stuff is ridiculously expensive
* Solid Rear Subframe Busings ($400)
* Wevo semi-solid engine mounts ($300)
There are some kits that will allow sway bar adjustments from the cab and some of the electronic dampener systems have some controls but the idea is to get a setup that fits all normal driving and leave it. Then, if you ever go to the track, you can stiffen it up to a level you wouldn't want in on the street and turn it back when you are done.
I installed PSS-10s that I bought from Gerty? I have them set kind of soft 4's all around I think. I only street w/ occasional HPDE events. They seem to be so much better on the highway expansion joints, one of the main reasons I went this way. When I first put the car back on the ground it was too low for my taste, so I had the alignment shop set the ride height for me just this week and had them bring the car back up ten mm (somewhere between ROW and ROW Sport) and into alignment. I doubt if I will ever use them to their full potential but so far I'm extremely pleased with them. BTW I also replaced all the rubber bits in the front when I installed the Bilsteins.
All great feedback on the PSS10s, looks like that's the way I should go.
gobs - I'll check out Conway Autoworks in Hanover since I'm on the south shore. Have you heard of/know of South Shore Autoworks? Good/bad shop?
I live here in Hanover. South Shore is good but Kenny at Conway is the way to go. Actually stop there and speak to him when you see his work space you will be hooked. He can do it all in there.
+1 on the PSS10's installed and set to -15mm
looks like this
I'd +1 the FVD's, though I have no experience with them, but they review well
Consider the advantages of an adjustable suspension, if you were to put the Porsche M030 kit on
(which I found to be harsh) if you don't like it, you're kinda stuck with it
You can raise or lower the car to your liking
at the very least with adjustable, you're most likely to find a setting that's optimal
upgraded sways will eliminate body roll
I'm 100% satisfied with my set up, wasn't cheap, but definitely worth it
For the guys that installed Ohlins, how hard to set up?
Did you adjust rebound etc first track day to see what felt best?
Is the 400/800 spring rating ok, or do you feel it is too soft in the front?
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