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(optional) 1.bought into the internet hype and took out a good IMS and replaced (LN) IMS/RMS $2,800
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Since then I've replaced IMS/ RMS, replaced clutch, replaced AOS, all new plugs, and all new coils.
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Since then I've replaced IMS/ RMS, replaced clutch, replaced AOS, all new plugs, and all new coils.
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Since then I've replaced IMS/ RMS, replaced clutch, replaced AOS, all new plugs, and all new coils.
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People have to expect a certain level of maintenance on any used car.
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Bought the car in July. Since then I've replaced IMS/ RMS, replaced clutch, replaced AOS, all new plugs, and all new coils. Great. All good to go. Then the MAF went. No biggie, replaced it. Then last week it was tires. While I had the car in the air I realized it needs new front struts. And the rear pads/ rotors are done. Anyone wanna guess what will be next. At this rate it's going to cost me $10k a year to drive this car.
This is as bad as my early days of driving turbo RX7's. Literally always something wrong.
It's all part of the experience. I actually love having stuff to do, just sitting here thinking of the money I've spent so far and how I'm going to bring up the fact that my front struts are busted and therefore I need coil overs and wheels to the wife. She'll buy that, right?
Same thing happened to me, first month water pump, two months later the clutch, so did the IMS and RMS and new brake fluid. This year it's swapping out LWFW for standard DMF, starter cable, transmission flush, some paint and body work and a new coolant reservoir... It doesn't stop it will never stop!! haha
I look at this differently. Once all of these things are done and you have built a service record on the car, you really are "done" probably for the remaining time of your ownership. It won't be $10K a year as most of the things you listed are very infrequent service needs (hopefully).
Did your purchase price reflect some of these things having to be done?
Once you fix these maintenance items, it will be a long time before you'll need to worry about them again. You'll also have the confidence the car is solid and reliable with these fixes.
In re. Mr. Holloman's initial posting, his experience is very similar to my son's experience with his first house purchase...bought house for about $100K, then spent nearly another $100K on upgrades, etc., and then sold it for $130K...and is still whining about it!
Duh!
I know I'm going against the grain here but I love people that more or less do optional or PM work, then complain about it.
People have to expect a certain level of maintenance on any used car. And for obvious items like tires, these are things that could've been easily identified in a self PPI and accounted for.
I see quite a few peeps that want that "new" car experience but raise a voice to get it.
I'm not directly knocking OP in anyway but merely venting some of my observations I've seen over and over on this forum.
As the saying goes: Wanna play, Gotta pay...
There's fixing up an used car then theres cars that werent built right to begin with. My lexus with 240 000+ km's on it just saw its 1st blown shock. in the 100k km (fathers old car) Ive owned it, ive thrown oil and brakes at it.
In the 1000 km ive owned my 911 (I completely realize not ALL of them are POS's):
-New engine
-New heat exchanger
-New headlight switch
-New Window regulator
-New micro switches
-New voltage regulator
I feel the OP. for a car that is over $100k here, the build quality is horrendous. Obviously, I'm jaded. lol
but still "paying to play"
my first-year maintenance in 8K miles
(optional) 1.bought into the internet hype and took out a good IMS and replaced (LN) IMS/RMS $2,800
(mandatory) 2. Oil changes at Porsche Boston $480.00 and local Porsche specialist inc. with IMS/RMS
The car has been bulletproof but I expect (optional) AOS and (mandatory) tires in the next 10K or so
I think most of you totally missed the theme of this post. I love the car and it's totally worth it to me. I was just having some fun.
And I drive the crap out of this car so I know things are going to break. I'm just hoping I reach the point where I've replaced everything and I can go at least a few months without replacing something, that's all I ask the car gods for.
Update to the list, still need to fix the wiper bottle so the fluid light will go off. Also, does anyone know how to stop the interior door panels from rattling constantly?
Go get new clips at the dealer, there are 8 it total, 4 grey and 4 white per each side. Replace them and put the panel back. While in there, re-tighten everything you see there.
Well, the difference with another prone-to-break car (like the "always something wrong" RX-7) is that typically you're fighting new damage. When I look at the list you made, nothing (except maybe the IMS) seems out of line for an older car - and many of the things (as you realize) are wear items and would need to be replaced regardless of whether this was a 996 or an F150.
I think your $10 a year number was tongue-in-cheek - but if you take a smaller number (say $5K a year), you're dealing with $416 a month -
MUCH
less than the lease or loan payment you'd be dealing with for a new (or even CPO) 911. That's assuming you don't have a payment for the 996; I realize that many people financed their 996 purchase.
Once the 996 is back in fighting shape, it's actually pretty reliable. I have owned several "well, I finally got it running again...do I sell it now while it's running, or do I keep driving it since I spent a sh*t ton of money on the damn thing" cars, and I don't think the 996 falls into that category.
I you can't keep up with the expenses (or the wife won't sign off on the new suspension
), you should dump the car - but you've just now got it all dialed in and ready for years of fun - it would suck to walk away from that.
Ahh its not going anywhere. My wife understands my car obsession. Im 38 years old and this is car number 47. This is the first one Ill hang on to a while. I've already got a soft spot for it. I've regretted getting rid of a few cars over the years (my first turbo RX7, a manual 3 series wagon, and an old truck I had) but I have a feeling this one would sting the worst to let go of.
She and I have been together about two and a half years and this is car number 3 in that time (plus a motorcycle). Im slowing down as I get older
I don't go through them quite that fast, but the 996 has cured me of my car-buying obsession. Both spots in the garage are full of cars I just don't want to get rid of (the '96 Corvette and my 996)...for the first time in my life, I am completely satisfied with my cars.
There are more awesome cars out there that I could get into - but these two feel like old friends.
Now you know why the pre 996 cars cost so much more, even though when new they cost so much less. They are relatively simple...much less crap to break. No IMS no AOS, no waterpump, no sensors to tell the doors to roll up and down the window by a 1/4 inch, no electrical switches to open the frunk, etc. Ignition keys and sweitches and door locks used to last for decades, same with wind up windows, head lights were inexpensive, etc, etc., etc.
Amen to that.
Last weekend I made the dreadful mistake of totaling up my spend over the last two years of ownership. The maintenance - while not insignificant - paled in comparison to my upgrade/mod budget. Like, so much that I might not get some new wheels and upgrade the stereo this year.
---> Head fake!
What am I saying?! Of course I'm getting new wheels and upgrading the stereo!
I added mine up over last couple years, it's not pretty and I immediately regretted it. However now keep a running spreadsheet. 12 year old sports car lyf!
Let's just be clear that mods are in a different bucket than PM/repairs. At least that's how I make myself feel good.
Under $1k of pm/repairs in 5 years. Over $10k in mods though.
I went the other way, I'm categorizing some of the mods as preventative maintenance to make me feel better about my mod budget.
Need new tires? Might as well get 18" wheels at the same time. Maintenance and wear items, I swear.
i think you missed the important point/question asked several posts ago regarding a proper PPI - either you didn't get a PPI prior to your purchase or it was a worthless PPI.
a good reputable shop would have made note of 90% of the repairs you've had to pay for....tires/clutch/brakes/suspension/etc....at that point, negotiating down the sale price to factor in most of these costs or walking away would have been my decision
I've tracked everything I've spent on my car in addition to purchase price (ignoring fuel and insurance) and categorized it as maintenance, repairs or upgrades.
I'm at $24,000.
At this rate, by next summer I'll have spent more keeping it running and making it "mine" than I spent on buying the damn thing.
Just crossed that threshold. While I hadn't planned on it, I don't regret it for a minute. Most fun I've had in years.
As far as being chained to my wife, it's more of a yen and yang with us. She's enough opposite of me that if I can get her buy in, then I'm pretty sure it's good decision. She sees through my rationalization(BS) and has a pretty good sense about things, even when she doesn't understand them.
I've averaged $150.00 per year for the past four years, not including mods I've made!! "knock on wood"!! That said one of my front turn signal light is flashing quickly so I'll have to get a $6 set of bulbs, oh the horror!!
A lot of people found that the common door noises were either the plastic retaining clips were broken and needed to be replaced or the speaker box had vibrated loose thus cause a rattling noise. Some folks will put sound proofing material in the door to lessen the road noise when they replace the retaining clips. But again, I've seen quite a few videos describing the common speaker box problem where it had completely vibrated loose... tightening it down completely cured the problem. Cheers!
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