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AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

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YOUR RESEARCHAC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

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Any constructive comments in regard to filling the AC with R12, as opposed to R134a is appreciated.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a
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Lubricate oil is left in the system

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Of bigger concern is the question of how much lubricating oil is left in the system.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

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I originally thought I could flush the system (as AC repair shops claim to do).

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

Repair shops do have the refrigerant

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I am sure the AC repair shops do have the refrigerant.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

Use 134a, unless you've heard

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Personally, I'd do what I could to use 134a, unless you've heard from better sources than I that it's OK in our Porsches.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a
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Fill ac

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Any constructive comments in regard to filling the AC with R12, as opposed to R134a is appreciated.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

Lubricate oil is left in the system

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Of bigger concern is the question of how much lubricating oil is left in the system.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

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I originally thought I could flush the system (as AC repair shops claim to do).

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

Repair shops do have the refrigerant

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I am sure the AC repair shops do have the refrigerant.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

Use 134a, unless you've heard

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Personally, I'd do what I could to use 134a, unless you've heard from better sources than I that it's OK in our Porsches.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a

Use duracool � 12a refrigerant results in lower head pressures

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Using Duracool � 12a Refrigerant results in lower head pressures.

AC refrigerant question R12a vs. R134a
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hello all: I live in Canada, and apparently, no R134a refrigerant is sold in Canada! The Walmart website, states the following for R12 refrigerant, which is widely available in any auto store here in Canada: Replacement refrigerant (Canada) for R134a and R12 refrigerants Each 6 ounce can is equivalent to 17 oz. of R134a and 19 oz. of CFC-12 . Using Duracool � 12a Refrigerant results in lower head pressures. Lower head pressures prolong equipment life. I accidentally pierced the low pressure line; so, my system is completely empty. I have new pipes installed. The system is now vacuumed completely. Any constructive comments in regard to filling the AC with R12, as opposed to R134a is appreciated. Cheers, Zack PS. I HAVE read everything on the manufacturer's website! http://www.redtek.com/win_12a_faq.html

POST 2Original post

The Duracool product is not R12, but R12a or R129 as listed in their FAQ. FAQ states it's a drop-in replacement for R134a. As far as constructive comments for refilling your system, the FAQ has a pretty good procedure listed, due to the weight differences between the two products. Personally, I'd do what I could to use 134a, unless you've heard from better sources than I that it's OK in our Porsches. I find it curious that you can't find R134a up there, since they obviously use it in new car production, and there are several US brand assembly plants up there that use it. Is it that you just can't find any, or it's illegal for a DIY'er to handle it?

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Of bigger concern is the question of how much lubricating oil is left in the system.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Dear CarOrton: There is no DIY 134a kit in Canada from what I have gathered. I am sure the AC repair shops do have the refrigerant. Cheers, Zack

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winner winner chicken dinner right here. With some luck none of the oil escaped and he can just put in the refrigerant with no oil.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

WWest: You posed an excellent question. In fact, I was going to do a new thread on that! I originally thought I could flush the system (as AC repair shops claim to do). However, there is a very nice video by Scotty Kilmer that explains why flushing does not work. Why Flushing AC Systems Does Not Work Anymore - YouTube I now wonder if I should dismantle the compressor and drain it, or what?! Cheers, Zack

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