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YOUR RESEARCH2001 996 red aero fair price
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Replace after minor rear tap at stop light
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rear bumper replaced after minor rear tap at stop light
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owner said transmission replaced after something hit in road
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It is not uncommon for a private seller to have an optimistic (sometimes a very optimistic) price in mind for his car (or as I learned for used machinery, too).
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If you are not a fan of the exterior and interior color that's probably a sign you need to move on.
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There can be and are exceptions but generally if one pays a premium for a used car he does so for a good used car and one that punches all the buttons.
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It is not uncommon for a private seller to have an optimistic (sometimes a very optimistic) price in mind for his car (or as I learned for used machinery, too).
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Trying to get a handle on price range for offer on 996.
Lots of listing price info but not much on actual selling prices.
2001
CA car
55k miles
One owner (Private seller)
Red and Beige
Aero factory
Manual
Clean car fax
IMS, water pump done preventive by good shop
Good maintenance history with receipts
Few options other than Aero with code shows as factory
Seller is asking 26k
Its been for sale for almost 8 months. Tells me price is high. Seller said he turned down 22k.
Based on the lack of sale unless there is something *wrong* with the car that you don't know about I'd say the price is a bit high. That the seller turned down a $22K offer though doesn't surprise me. $22K is quite a bit lower than $26K.
Not sure what the car will sell for. If the car is a good example, and based on what you posted it reads like it is, while it may not be worth $26K it could very well be worth more than $22K.
Maybe he's just waiting for the right buyer to pay his full asking price? I know when I sell my vehicles, I don't deviate from my list price. I'd rather wait for the right buyer to come along. I would assume for most of us here, $3K is not a deal breaker if the car checks off all the boxes for you.
A 2001 with 55k miles on it in very good condition with records sold on Ebay for $17,900 on Sept. 27 this year. Saw a 90k miles car sell for $11k. Another one with 40k miles, orig owner, all records, ims and new clutch, sold for $23,950. I would say that is the top of the market for a low mile 2001.
There you go. $26K is a pretty optimistic price then.
It is not uncommon for a private seller to have an optimistic (sometimes a very optimistic) price in mind for his car (or as I learned for used machinery, too).
Not much one can do about this is the seller can't be swayed from his price.
My advice is if the price is too high, unacceptably high, to keep an "eye" on the car. Sometimes after months of no sale and after showing the car over and over again, insurance or registration and maybe even smog comes due and the seller then is more agreeable to a lower price. I'm not saying one can "steal" the car but one can sometimes buy it for less than the seller was asking for the car earlier.
'course, one probably keeps looking and often one finds another car in the meantime.
I think the price is a bit high, but that doesn't mean he won't be able to get it.
I think in this case, Stan23 is right. When I sold my Lexus I was asking top dollar. It was worth it and I didn't have to sell, so I was able to hang on to it until I found the right buyer.
In the end it comes down to how motivated the seller is and how motivated you as a buyer are. I paid a bit more than I wanted for mine, but the seller had me at a bit of a disadvantage as he knew I had driven about 3 1/2 hours to look at it. (Given the logistics, there was no way to not disclose that.) He had a good idea that I wouldn't walk over $1500. He was right. He did move a bit on the price, but I paid about $1500 more than I thought I could buy a similar car for. Overall I am very happy with my new ride and don't miss that $1500.
It's a market, need two sides to do a transaction. The guy isn't 'wrong' because his price isn't being met with a current bid. Maybe offer 24k firm and tell him you appreciate his position but need to factor in additional costs?
If 26k is unacceptable I'm sure you can just pull up another well maintained, Guards Red, aero MK1 for a better price
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If you are not a fan of the exterior and interior color that's probably a sign you need to move on. This car is not for you especially if you have to pay what appears to be a bit of a premium for the car.
There can be and are exceptions but generally if one pays a premium for a used car he does so for a good used car and one that punches all the buttons.
PPI results
Minor incident/accident
1. rear bumper replaced after minor rear tap at stop light
2. rear quarter panel resprayed parking lot incident
3. owner said transmission replaced after something hit in road
Needs motor mounts, water pump and shocks. Coils and spark plugs are original and PPI recommended replacement. Car runs and shows well.
Beige is much uglier in person. The Red Aero car on the other hand is striking.
65k car not 55k mi as originally posted
Guards red over black. If my '99 Aero had been that combo, I'd still be driving it.
Frankly, I always loved guards red over tan on the 944 when it first came out back in 1982, but tan interiors don't age well. That was my 964's color combo. I do really like Barn's interior where a lot of black parts break up the tan. I think that looks great - breaks up the tan very nicely.
We all have our price limits and reasons for wanting one of these cars. I got my 2004 with 52k miles for more than "the going rate" The seller was very high $32k, reduced it after 6 months to $27,500. It had the colors I was looking for, options i was looking for, all receipts from day one, and was garaged its whole life. The PPI came back clean so after hours of negotiations, I got it for 25K. I know this is high but I found what I was looking for (plus I am in CA and our prices are a bit higher) and do not regret it at all. If you find one you like and it is a sound runner, do what you can afford. If your like me, I did not buy this as an investment but for the pleasure of driving it. Just my two cents.
No way i would buy that 2001, do your research, so many needed changes came out in 2002. i regret and hate my 99, 996, but i believe 3.4 was unto 2002. Transmissions are pure junk in 99 to 02, on 2nd replacement for as they call them "disposable". Larger engine, better cam, better trans in 02 to 05. do yourself a favor and research.
I can understand preferring an 02+ (headlights, slightly more power, better wheel choices, more options, glass rear window on Cabs, C4S/Targa). I can also understand preferring 98-01 (headlights, slightly less weight, more "raw"/old school feel, dual-row IMS, reputation for better quality in early production cars).
But "hate and regret"? They're not that different at all...I can't imagine hating 996.1 without also hating 996.2.
agree with texcwa 100%
if you like the car and it pushes your buttons, then buy it.
the advice to walk away based on the PPI is just silly IMHO. I mean, you are negotiating the purchase price and MIGHT get $1-2k off; then expect to pay several thousand in maintenance, prevention in the next year. Why would a buyer pass on a car that needs a couple thousand dollars in work when the general consensus on this board is to EXPECT to pay $5k a year in repairs
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