Good deal or not good deal??

Well I have always wanted a Porsche since I was probable 1 day old and im getting pretty old (29) so I think its time for me to start looking for a Porsche.. I have found a few ( I really am only looking for turbo's... lol) And this one is actually close to me and not in Toronto or bc ( for you Canadians) Good deal or bad? Here's the add he posted 2003 Porsche 911 Turbo in amazing shape, fresh safety, new Toyo proxe tires, new clutch, 6 spd standard, carbon fibre interior package, only 70000 kms. 700R Turbo Kit Highlights of this kit: Xona Rotor ball bearing turbochargers AWE Tuning 996TT Exhaust System AWE Tuning 996TT Intercoolers AWE Tuning 996TT Headers Pair of AWE Tuning DV1 Diverter Valves Proprietary G.I.A.C. Software with switching capabilities Sachs/AWE Stage 2.5 Clutch Kit (for 6spd cars) Upgraded Bosch Fuel Pump and wiring Larger fuel injectors Samco 996TT F-Hose All necessary installation hardware This potent combination delivers a bullet-proof 650 crank horsepower on 93 octane and 700 crank horsepower on 100+ octane. 49,900

My knowledge of Turbos is limited so hopefully, the Turbo owners who also hang around here in the NA forum will chime in soon. Meanwhile, also a good idea to ask in the TURBO forum: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turbo-forum-61/ Best of luck.

Those wheels are god awful. Front bumper looks like a cheap gt2 knockoff. Carbon interiors crack. I'm sure its fast, but I'd be leary of a heavily modified car.

Ya i agree Aswell those rims are fn ugly as ****. I have my eyes on some nice HRE rims if I were to buy a 996tt. I wasn't to sure what was going on with the front bumper. And even my carbon interior on my audi and bmw have cracks in them so that doesn't Suprise me. But ya I was curious if the mods are worth it and if the motor could handle these mods for an extent amount of period. Cause if I buy this thing I will probably take it on road trips and I don't want my motor to randomly seize up or a turbo impeller to find its way to make love with my valve train

Does the turbo have the IMS issue? I see no mention of any IMS bearing replacement. With the HP he claims, is this a greater or same probability of failure?

Sometimes buying an upgraded turbo car means you get into a rocket at a bargain price. Sometimes it means you're buying someone else's disaster. It also means that unless you have access to his tuner (or whoever did the post-upgrade tuning), you're going to have a black box that you don't exactly understand; if you change out a turbo or the injectors later on, you may need a new tune to ensure you don't lean it out and pop the motor under boost. If this was a bone-stock turbo, I wouldn't have those reservations, but any time you're dealing with substantial performance mods, you need to have a grasp of what all is involved. I can vouch for this personally: I sold my heavily modified forced-induction non-Porsche car to a friend who HAD to have it. I warned him NOT to mess with anything; I did the tuning myself, including building my own fuel maps, for a fairly conservative tune that made about half the additional power the blower was capable of. Within a week, he'd reconfigured the intake for more airflow and swapped supercharger pulleys without bothering to get it tuned AND decided to run it on 87 pump gas because at that time premium was $5 a gallon. Within 2 months, the block had a rod hanging out of it and he was trying to find a race short block. I felt like crap, both because the thing I built was ruined and because I knew he'd borrowed money - and sold his previous car at a loss - to buy my car and then turned it into a roller. You can save TONS of money by buying someone else's project; you can also inherit someone else's nightmare. And that snowplow front bumper is hideodorous.

From what I have read from Multiple sources the 911 turbo 3.6 did not have the IMs issues that plagued the rest of the 996 Porsche's.

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The turbo engines do not use a ball bearing to support the intermediate shaft.

Gotcha! Still learning about these cars.

My butt says stay away. Crappy pictures in the industrial area, car looks dirty. I would check your Canadian Carfax and ownership history really thoroughly. Front bumper tells me there is an accident somewhere in the past. No details on ownership history or why he is selling it either. Previous seller feedback for diesel truck programmers only. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...p2047675.l2557

The car is about half an hour from where I live. And that picture is taken at one of those storage units. But If I was serious I'd have to do alot of investigation on it and figure it out I agree. But I like the 2 cents from you guys.

If you're a power junkie (like me) and you drive that car after you drive a stock 996tt you'll buy it... the power it makes is just silly. I have a GT700 kit on mine and it still cracks me up how fast it is...107k miles on the clock by the way.

I am a power junky and I know if I owned this what ever funds I have spare would be in getting new turbos software exhaust.... Ect ect. U know what I'm getting at. Is awe a reputable brand for Porsche? Quality? How's ur mezger holding up after 107miles? Transmission? Clutch? Oh the questions!

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Why spend money on turbos, exhaust, software, etc. to tune a car that is already tuned? If you're going to do that look for a stock car and then tune it the way you want.

That's the thing. I'd like to buy a car with a kit already on it.. Cause those kits are like 16, 18, 20+ Grand. And this one just happened to have a gt700 kit installed. Which in long run save me money. More Less I'm just seeing if this car is a good deal or if it's a junk man's repair special which I don't want at all.

If POWER is the goal, why not buy a Viper? Why build a sledgehammer when you can buy a sledgehammer?

Never liked vipers or corvettes even when I've driven em. They just lack that refinement. My bmw(335i) feels more refined than those viper tractor v10s.

Buy an E55k then. With $10,000.00 in mods you will run with every modded 996 out there while getting your butt massaged and cooled, with three friends in tow, and a trunk full of beer kegs, while towing a John deer tractor behind you. You Tube

you must buy that po it is you

Well, save your breath and don't even bother posting this car up in the 996 Turbo forum. They are just going to crap all over it. You got better advice here from the guys above than you'll get over there. That front bumper is a Techart version of a GT2 (top of the line 996 turbo) bumper. It is not a replica of the GT2 bumper, rather a stylized version of it. Personally I don't care for it, but it is a high-dollar modification. Since the car is highly modified, most people won't consider buying it. But if you want a modified car, then it is a helluva lot cheaper to let someone else spend the $30,000 or so to do it for you. That's the route I went, although sans the body kit. Knock on wood, but my car has been great in the 14 months I've owned it. That being said, this car is overpriced by about $5,000. Frankly, since 90% of 996tt buyers won't even consider a car modified this highly, I would bet $40,000 US would buy it.

Ya ive been getting that vibe from people here. If not stock not good type of thing. Lol. But that's also good input Aswell.. Do u have pics of ur cars and list of mods? I'm interested

FYI I bought my 04' 996tt cab, stick, with about $40k in mods for $31k about 9 months back. Love it. If they're the mods on that car that you want then it's a deal... if not then find then one that has the mods you want... they're basically free if they're already on there.

Its a Canadian car, so factor 30% for currency variation so sitting at $38US.

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Which HRE's do you have your eyes on?

Most likely p107s or the Rs100m in satin bronze.

Saving money by buying an already heavily modified Porsche is a Fool's Errand. relinuca

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If the mods are what you want and they were installed correctly, why?

A decat exhaust are all the perf mods a turbo needs. After that, you start spending a whole lot more for incremental gains and a loss in reliability. Torque is fun for awhile but an NA 911 on track is the best drug I've tried to date.

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pretty much never happens. tons of heavily modified cars are hacked to hell and back.

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And this is based on your ownership of how many 996TTs?

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Nobody who has ever been addicted to forced induction can "one and done" performance mods. This is a two-step addiction system: Step 1: Spend thousands of dollars making your car louder and less reliable. Only after you have spent at least 50% of the car's original sticker price on upgrades that add nothing to the car's actual worth will you finally realize "I should have just bought an _____ in the first place." Step 2: Acquire a different car and repeat step 1.

My advice, run.

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has nothing to do with the car professor. I've heavily modified cars. I've spent plenty of time trying to repair heavily modified cars. This particular car may be fine, who knows. That said, I've spent enough time around heavily modified cars and the shops that do the modifying (porsche and other brands), that I'd very leery about purchasing one. Since you seem to know...well...basically nothing about automobiles, perhaps you should just bow out quietly before you embarrass yourself.

Oh Oliver . . .

And, oh by the way, apparently your answer to my question is "zero". So, of the two of us, one definitely has no first hand experience to speak from when it comes to modified 996TTs.

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Ok. so you purchased a modified car. And it hasn't broken on you yet? That apparently means all heavily modified cars are done in expert fashion. How much inspecting have you done on the way your vehicle was modified? I'm not sure you'd know a turbo charger from a throw out bearing though, so its probably a moot point. My statement stands. tons of heavily modified cars are completed in a sloppy manner. If a part doesn't fit, just cut x,y,z part to make it fit...I guess "cause racecar".

Why would I throw out a perfectly good bearing? I would probably need that somewhere on my car.

Suffice to say; there's no such thing as a "good deal" on a Porsche. That is unless you're extremely fortunate to know someone (and the car) who is trying to off load.

internet score is KC 1, quad 0 (quickly resorting to snobbery no less... shame) BTW because you've said "tons of heavily modified cacars are completed in a sloppy manner" does not necessarily mean that the statement "tons of heavily modified cars have been properly assembled" can not also be true. It's pretty obvious that the use of the word "tons" is a clue neither of us has a ounce of a clue what the real numbers are. In my experience, when a guy spends $120k+ on a car he's not going to let Joe Duct tape do his mods for him. So a heavily modified Civic (for instance) may have a higher probability of poor work than a heavily modified 996tt. BTW... bolt ons don't hardly make it "heavily modified" in my humble opinion.