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So does the 997 kit just bolt straight in........is the kit fitted from inside or underneath the car........is it a nightmare job that's worth it............just trying to get a handle on what kind of job this is.

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Replace bushings withe new and improved versions

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Also, what do you think about their comments about just replacing the old bushings withe new and improved versions?

Gear lever movement

Replace center console in 15 minutes

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The first time you do this, it'll take you a few hours total; after a couple of times, you could probably remove/replace the center console in 15 minutes.

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Replace console

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Luckily I was replacing my console with a used one I'd bought off eBay or else i'd have been pretty annoyed.

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Replace shifter takes all of 5 minutes; you'll want

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Replacing the shifter takes all of 5 minutes; you'll want to test it to make sure it shifts properly before buttoning it all back up.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

So does the 997 kit just bolt straight in........is the kit fitted from inside or underneath the car........is it a nightmare job that's worth it............just trying to get a handle on what kind of job this is.

Gear lever movement

Replace bushings withe new and improved versions

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Suggestion · Original poster

Also, what do you think about their comments about just replacing the old bushings withe new and improved versions?

Gear lever movement

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The first time you do this, it'll take you a few hours total; after a couple of times, you could probably remove/replace the center console in 15 minutes.

Gear lever movement

Replace console

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Luckily I was replacing my console with a used one I'd bought off eBay or else i'd have been pretty annoyed.

Gear lever movement

Replace shifter takes all of 5 minutes; you'll want

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Replacing the shifter takes all of 5 minutes; you'll want to test it to make sure it shifts properly before buttoning it all back up.

Gear lever movement

Replace these pivot points

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replaces these pivot points for ultimate shifter feel and precision.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

In my opinion, the gear lever feels like it has too much slack in it which sometimes leads to difficulty in "feeling" for the right gear position. With the lever in any slected gear, how much slack movement should there be?

POST 2Original post

Quotes source post: 13239115

996 shifter sucks. Really bad. There's nothing wrong with yours except that you haven't replaced it. Your options from cheapest to best are: 997 Shift Kit B&M SSK 997 SSK Numeric SSK (worth the money if you ever track the car.) You can also get cheap eBay SSK specials but I haven't heard from anyone that has tried them.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13239131

So does the 997 kit just bolt straight in........is the kit fitted from inside or underneath the car........is it a nightmare job that's worth it............just trying to get a handle on what kind of job this is. Thanks for the response.

POST 4Original post

It's an easy DIY. Look on pelican parts for the instructions but it's basically just remove the console and swap them out. The instructions will emphasize the need to mark the cables so that you get them back in the right spot. If you do it, let me know and I'll shoot you a photo of the piece I broke on the console so that you know which way it pulls to snap out. Luckily I was replacing my console with a used one I'd bought off eBay or else i'd have been pretty annoyed.

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Quotes source post: 13239158

So I found this........ http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti..._Shift_Kit.htm Anything to add about things to avoid? Also, what do you think about their comments about just replacing the old bushings withe new and improved versions?

POST 6Original post

I've got a lightly used (a few thousand miles) 997 shifter for $75 plus shipping. If you're interested, PM me.

POST 7Original post

My numeric was a complete replacement so I didn't have to worry about the bushings. I expect that Dporto's (which is a heck of a deal) is the same way but you will want to verify. Otherwise the bushings is a good idea. That's the article I used. I forgot to have the white lithium grease on hand but there was enough in the old cable ends that it wasn't a big deal. My big mistake was on the cover beside the ebrake. The two top corners pop out (gently) and the bottom corners hook in to swing the cover out once the top is released.

POST 8Original post

I'd be very curious to try some of those options, since I thought the 996 shifter was already pretty good!

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 13239309

You aren't alone Some times I think it would be nice to have a slightly shorter throw, but I've never found it to be sloppy. At least for day to day driving with some fun thrown in from time to time. I can't think of any bad shifts where I could legitimately look beyond my finger tips and toes for the root cause...

POST 10Original post

I did the "cheap" 997 shifter upgrade because I could not stand the slack and sloppiness you mentioned in the gear change. As mentioned, it's a direct swap. The 997 is so much more precise & smooth, but it's definitely not a SSK as the throw is not short & compact as found with other SSK shifters out there. Good-luck with your choice... Cheers,

POST 11Original post

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It may be an issue with the bushings wearing out then. I would literally miss 2-3rd shifts when driving aggressively with my old shifter and leave it hanging in neutral. I never had that issue on my 997oe, 997ssk and there is zero doubt when shifting the numeric.

POST 12Original post

Keep an eye on ebay and in the classifieds. You can usually find them for pretty cheap. I found a B&M SSK already mounted in the cradle for about $100. Made install really easy. The B&M is a bit notchy when cold, but it has much shorter throws, and you can definitely feel the pattern and know what gear you are selecting. Even my wife commented on how much she liked the feel of it better than the stock 996 shifter. I think the consensus is that the 997 SSK is a bit smoother, but now having the B&M, Im not sure Id spend the extra $$.

POST 13Original post

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You remove the shifter ****, boot, and surround, and then you remove the center console (the plastic console that runs between the front seats) to expose the shifter. This is by no means a nightmare job, but the first time you do it, you'll want to be slow and methodical about it so you don't break anything. The wire clip for the alarm switch in the center storage console, for example, is easy to break if you don't realize it's there. Once the console is out of the way, you remove a few 10-12mm nuts and lift the console up and out of the way to expose the shifter. Replacing the shifter takes all of 5 minutes; you'll want to test it to make sure it shifts properly before buttoning it all back up. The first time you do this, it'll take you a few hours total; after a couple of times, you could probably remove/replace the center console in 15 minutes.

POST 14Original post

Remember, 987=997 I scored a 987 shifter out of a 30,000 mile Cayman for $50. Such a great upgrade.

POST 15Original post

I hope you don't mind a hijack but when I read this thread it brought up an issue I am starting to see with my 2001 C4 (original shifter) and thought that some of you guys that have worked on the shifting mechanism could give me a start point. I have been noticing lately that shifting into reverse is "different". It seems there is significantly more resistance when moving the lever to the left than there used to be. It still goes into reverse okay once it is to the left but it is not confidence inspiring. Movement through the forward gears seems to be unaffected. I've never worked on a cable actuated shifter so my question is where to start? I'm assuming that the two cables at the shifter end I see in the photos hook directly into the linkage below. Before I get the car up on stands, do you guys think it is possible the problem is at the shifter end (i.e. dry cable or worn bearing) or is it more likely a missing retaining clip or something mechanical at the transmission end?

POST 16Original post

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Just sent you a PM on this.

POST 17Original post

I did a pretty in-depth write-up of the different shifter options, along with a pictorial teardown of the OEM shifter. Have a look through this thread (with lots of pics) to get a good look into what makes the shifter feel less than stellar, and even worse with age: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...n-upgrade.html Our SHIFT-RIGHT Solution replaces these pivot points for ultimate shifter feel and precision. It's back in stock next week!

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