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YOUR RESEARCHCabriolet's roll-over protection system
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996 & 997 rollover bars are essentially the same with the same reset procedure.
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You said that you just used a screwdriver and put them back in place, but what really activates them?
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I am thinking about getting 996 Cabriolet but I am little concern about "roll-over protection system". It is spring loaded roll-over bar.
Does anyone have [unfortunate] experience with it? Are there any pictures of it deployed? How reliable is it [long term]? How strong is front window in case of roll over (comparing to coupe)?
Thanks,
Vadim.
Im not sure but I am interested to hear the posts on this. I havent pushed the car hard enough to trigger them to come out yet, but I'm sure it'll scare the hell out of me when I do (if they're as loud as other ones ive seen)
I think if you keep the rubber side down youre safer tho
Do a search and you will find more on this. The only detractor to this method of protecting occupants is if you roll over in an environment where the ground is soft. Then, the roll bars can dig into the ground. Of course, everyone drives their cars differently, but I have never felt any less safe being in my cabriolet.
I did search before, but found roll cage related posts only. Anyway, searching more I did find this thread
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...tick-test.html
which answers most of my questions. (I would assume that 996 would be very similar to 997).
Thanks.
Vadim
Everything is a trade off. The cabs are heavier than the coupes because of extra structural reinforcement. The A pillar is reinforced to support the weight of the upside down car. But let's be realistic, if the car is flipping over with me inside, I would rather be in a fixed roof car.
They hold up rather well in roll overs, Ive seen a few that people walked from just a little banged up.
Really if your flipping a car................you probaly did something very wrong anyway.
They are 100% reliable (maybe too reliabe as they can deploy driving agressively) They deploy very fast and theres not much in the system that could fail.
The winsehild and frame are alos much stronger. Im confident that the frame would hold the car up without the help of the bars. But if im flipping a car ill take a coupe with a full cage.
Here are some roll bars deployed when it counted!
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I have had the roll bars deploy from "getting too much air" on a road by my house. No big deal, I just stuck a screwdriver down in there to push them back down, and lock them in place.
Partner, if you are thinking of a rollover you may want to buy a car with a full race cage. In my years of driving and tracking a cabrio this has not been a major deciding factor in purchasing this type of car. The pop up roll bars are more than adequate to protect the occupants. I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but this is almost like a thread I read many months ago in which a person looking at purchasing a 911 was concerned about gas mileage.
I know what you mean. But I have rolled my SUV a year ago. 911 is not SUV, but picture of my kids hanging upside down still be in my head, and I don't think it will go away anytime soon
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Thanks everyone, but after long consideration I will be mostly looking for 997 coupe. If cab had large single roll bar instead of two small one, I would probably consider cab more.
Thanks again,
Vadim.
PS: any recommendations on shopping for 911 in norther California are welcome.
a friend of mine rolled his one night after hydroplaning. this was back in 2001. he had a 2000 midnight blue 996 cab. first one of that color in michigan.
anyway, the car rolled twice (yes, he was going very fast). he had his seatbelt on and the roll over system deployed.
the car stopped rolling and ended up on it's passenger side. anyway, he walked away from the accident with just a couple of bruises. i'm not sure he would have had the same experience with another cab. hope that helps.
Always worried about the same thing...
You said that you just used a screwdriver and put them back in place, but what really activates them? Since tires do not last long, i always get paranoid about 'what if'. I have actually have never seen the bars out , but knew they were there. I am mainly curious if it is like airbags which require a special 'setter' to make sure they are going to pop up when you need them. Thank you
I spun off the track and tried to bail hay with my 996. The hay won. Though I never felt like the tires left earth the bars deployed firmly against the rear window. Screwdriver and a shove got them back in place and with the top up in the sun the dimples in my rear window went away as well. Pushed out the dents in the door and had the paintless dent removal guy clean up the rest. Only evidence I have now is scratched left from the hay.