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YOUR RESEARCHplease comment on this carfax
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Check shows them your "guaranteed financing"
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A two second credit check shows them your "guaranteed Financing".
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Sometimes owners get wonky with change of address, moving states.
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That doesn't replace the PPI, but it is nice to have an experienced forum member to actually lay eyes on the car for blatant defects.
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Those same dealers, about 1/2 of them will change their mind down the road.
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From the carfax looks ok...but carfax is not 100% and unless you are very familiar with (water cooled) Porsches, you need a Pre Purchase Inspection...(which is not 100% either)
2 owner is good. last owner was long time, also good, but unless you buy from an owner you never get much in the way of service records.
I would not worry about the Flood note..if there was a problem you'd know by now....
You should keep in mind that there could be an IMS issue, read up on that if you are new to these cars....
Otherwise just have a really long drive in it and listed carefully, make sure everything works, and look it over closely from all angles, and make sure the there is no oil leakage....
ASK questions on RL we know EVERYTHING !!!
Carfax is an independent web-based service. Many small shops and even some dealers never report anything to Carfax. Quick lube places don't report anything either. If the car was in an accident but no tickets were issued, the accident repairs will likely never show up in Carfax. Look the car over and take it for what it's worth.
I think its pretty fair. Its not a common setup and looks immaculate. You are going to need maintenance on something that age constantly anyways. If you take good care of it, I seriously doubt it ever trades lower than 26.5.
If they will not go down on price than its a tough decision. If the car speaks to you, and is in the general price point of what you want to pay. Buy it. Don't be the guy who buys a deal only to regret it later. Buy the car you want and enjoy it!
That carfax looks pretty darn good.
The car was gone over completely based on items replaced.
And like op mentioned, this is only what was documented.
Have a ful PPI done.
Call the service centers that did the services. Ask if they have more detailed history, ie. Oil filter cut open for inspection.
This car's history looks good.
Price is very fair.
Carfax looks fine to me, I don't expect every little thing on there, receipts are nice for work but in the end, a PPI is the best money you can spend when buying one of these cars.
Why was the 3rd owner only one month?
Corporate owned...I don't see a problem with that...
I bought an M/6, 2003 C2 36,000 miles privately 4 months ago for $25 (very interesting story with that)..Triple black IMS done with paperwork.
So far, replaced 2 front tires and one rear, oil and filter, brake flush....(and of course the pumpkins and wheel center caps..).....
Needs a few minor things that I'll take care of soon...
OP. You could ask this group if someone would be willing to stop by and look at the car for you. It's called a Rennfax here. That doesn't replace the PPI, but it is nice to have an experienced forum member to actually lay eyes on the car for blatant defects.
Interesting color combo, so folks usually charge a premium fort that. There are a few shops listed in the Carfax, depending on your diplomatic skills, you could reach out to those to see if anyone remembers the car and can speak to it. Beyond that, your best bet is a PPI to gauge current condition. Personally, I wouldn�t wanna spend more than 25k for a c2 (and it would have to tick EVERY box to get me to spend that), particularly given there are so many out there. My $.02
So, I am a total newb at this...I've never purchased a used car in my life, and I've never bought a European sports car.
I've contact 3 dealerships (specialty, European sports car type dealerships) about 996s they have in stock, and all of them have indicated (via email) that they aren't interested in negotiating on price.
Is this unusual or standard procedure?
Of course they don't want to negotiate price. They want you to pay their exorbitant prices. They are in business to make as much profit per car as they can. I don't fault them for that, but negotiations should be done. If their price is firm and the car is over priced for the market...walk away! Do your research first.
There has been a new trend that started maybe 15-20 years ago that the price listed on the sticker has already bet set and is already low. So yes, common for dealers to say they won�t negotiate. Those same dealers, about 1/2 of them will change their mind down the road. They just don�t want to give up any ground right away and up front. Once you go in and spend some time, if you are a real buyer, they would be silly to not negotiate, even a little bit, if they could sell the car that day. However, I don�t have much tolerance for sellers that are super rigid up front. There�s a lot to choose from around here (Chicagoland), so I can pass up a dealer for another one and never think twice about it.
Never try and negotiate over the phone or via email, text etc...Until you walk in in person and the seller see's a real person face to face. They will never let you walk out the door without trying their hardest to part you from your cash! I worked for a couple of Dealerships a long time ago...I hate the tactics they use.
I'm in southern WI, and it's looking like I'll need to find a car near Chicago (unless I'm willing to fly somewhere). If you are aware of a 99-05 996 coupe with manual transmission for sale, or a dealership with a good reputation, please let me know.
Thanks.
If you are buying a car, new or used at a dealership, visit 2 business days before the end of the month. Even better, end of the quarter.
Best day of the year to car shop, December 29th.
You answered your own question. Its because you are emailing them and not there negotiating. If you go there, test drive it and then try and negotiate you will have much better luck. And just so you know cash isn't always king. In a private transaction yes obviously a seller doesn't want to be dealing with you needing to finance but dealers actually want you to. They hate cash buyers, banks give them a kickback for originating loans and this is a big part of their income. You may be better off financing, and then paying off a week later. Should cost you zero to do so.
I'm sure you are right, but somebody in the system has to pay for the financing and/or "kickbacks". In my experience, having cash in hand (or guaranteed financing) increases negotiating power. I've been in a multitude of situations as either a buyer, or a seller, where the guaranteed payment (offer with visible means of payment) is better than the possibility of a future sale at a possibly higher price. I may be dealing with a very different market then you are though.
I do think in the private sector it makes a difference but at a dealer not so much. Take the kick back out of it, car financing isn't like a mortgage, they run your credit and if you aren't a dead beat they lend you money. A two second credit check shows them your "guaranteed Financing". Now with Real Estate, cash is king for sure, you can get significant discounts for paying cash because mortgage financing is never a sure thing.
Not trying to be argumentative here, just sharing my thoughts, not saying yours are wrong!
It all depends on what they (the seller) are motivated to do. Some are motivated by financing, others don�t care. Trick is to find out what they want - what�s in it for the seller - and go from there. You might be surprised to find out it�s not what you think it is.
