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In 1999 it was replaced by the aforementioned $2000 Porsche Blackberry.
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However, this newest model still suffered from chronic IMS failures, especially among those that only used their phones to occasionally text or surf **** while on the toilet.
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I got tired of the having to wind the watch and adjust dates at the end of some months.
Run good and don't have 15 modes of failure either
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They still run good and don't have 15 modes of failure either.
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In my room, although I forgot to wind it, is a nice WW2 porthole ship clock (not a ships clock, but a regular one from a ship) had it re-done a few years ago and it's been mostly running since.
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So what do you like to wear when it is just you and the 911 and the road?
My favorite shoes are a pair of worn out Converse sneakers...the little toe on my right foot has worn a hole in the canvas. Add a pair of frayed Banana Republic khakis, a wrinkled oxford cloth button down collar shirt, and toss an army field jacket in the back seat. On my wrist, a fifty-three year old non-date Rolex Oyster Perpetual from the Caracas store of Serpico Y Laino.
I begin by giving myself a full loofah using the finest natural sponges from a small shop in The Keys that Hemingway frequented. I can't recall the name right now but believe it rhymes with 'larouche'. No dandruff in Goldneye, you all name your Porsches as well I am sure.
Once thoroughly toweled I stand before my early 18th century Philadelphia Highboy and select a bespoke shirt, light starch, in a Belgian linen from the gentleman at Needle & Gristle. Pants are Japanese selvage denim, only washed with tears from a carp then frozen for 20 hours. This is done fortnightly.
Footwear is original Senna race-worn boots acquired in a poker match with the piloti himself nearby the old Dutch Grand Prix track at Zandevort.
By this point I usually need a nap so I forgive going for a spirited romp and retire to my Hastens bed.
Threads by JohnnyIrish and responses like this are the reasons I still lurk on Rennlist.
The thought of wearing anything special to drive the p-car never even crossed my mind.
I
DO
have a special outfit I wear when driving my Corvette ("Iceman") - a denim vest over a "Bikini Inspector" t-shirt, cargo shorts, mandals, a "Summit Racing" ball cap, and Transitions self-darkening sunglasses. My leather sandals are offset by a pair of black socks, and I keep a stash of condoms in my fanny pack along with my RAZR and pager. My timepiece: A Casio Ironman on my off-hand, balanced by my
original
LiveStrong bracelet on the other.
In this weather, I may opt to remove the targa panels and skip the T-shirt - the denim vest and my extensive shoulder hair offer plenty of UV protection.
A full tank of gas, "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins on perpetual repeat, cruise control set at 46, and only one thought on my mind: the early bird buffet at Barona. I'm gonna make that carving station my b!tch.
^^^^^
I return the compliment the 5CHN3LL. A glass of Punt e Mes and a vigorous walk around my manse and grounds if you ever find yourself in Connecticut.
I drive naked. I want nothing between me and the ultimate car.
It also helps me keep my speed under control as I really don't like explaining it all to the cops when they pull me over. They just don't seem to understand
Well Rolexes (and most quality mechanical watches) are much like Porsches in that they require an attentive and informed operator plus a certain amount of regular maintenance. All of my four Rolexes and one Tudor and an Omega Constellation (cir. 1965) keep amazingly good time. Of course atomic clocks are the most accurate but like many uber tech things in the world...where is fun of owning them.
I'm a watch enthusiast as well but I'll be the first to admit that anything more than a Timex quartz is just man's jewelry and justification to show off. Even some COSC certified watches can't hold a candle to a $20 Timex for accuracy.
With that said, I do have a $250 G-Shock in my arsenal that syncs with the atomic clock stations around the world a few times a day. A microprocessor does differential analysis even on the position of the second hand to make sure it is in alignment with the atomic signal.
On another note, Breitling is taking a major pounding after Top Gear aired the episode testing and blasting the Breitling Emergency model.
Lol on the replies, but I'm gonna go in a slightly opposite direction. I am blessed to not have to commute to work, so my Porsche is not a DD. While I don't go as far as loofah sponges, etc., driving it is still an "event" for me that I look forward to, and after 1 year & 11 K miles my enthusiasm for this car, Porsche & the 911 has not diminished; if anything my enthusiasm for these have increased....T
John, I am a Grand Seiko fan and have the first one made from 1960. Grand Seiko's were made to beat the Swiss COSC specs and they still do. Today they are in the top TWO most accurate production mechanical watches in the world. I also have several other watches of which some are Swiss but my favorites are the Grand Seiko's. I just bought another limited edition Grand Seiko of which there are only 300 ever made. Collecting watches is crazy but its easy to get hooked. Google Grand Seiko sometime when you're bored and check them out.
I would be the first to argue that a watch is pretty much useless. Every mobile phone tells the time along with most radio faces in cars and also most computer screens. All these items tell the time and more so there is no need for a watch any more. When I was 18 in 1960 at least a watch had some usefulness. I still like them so I still wear one. I like the mechanical Seiko because I like all high quality mechanical things.
In today's world, the last reason to wear a watch is to tell time. I bought my boys (23 & 22) nice watches for Xmas one year and they wore them for a day or two.
I read a recent article about the new Apple Watch and it said it may end up reintroducing the younger generations to watches again. That left me scratching my head.
If you don't already know, there is a Watches! thread in Rennlist. It's way down there past the "Do you wash your cash before you sleep on it" Forum and the "Flying Private: Whole Jet Owners and Fractional Card Holders Only" Forum.
ZZTop said it best: "I had a shine on my boots, I had my sideburns lowered.
With my New York brim and my gold tooth displayed,
Nobody give me trouble cause they know I got it made."
Nice. I never have had the desire to own one because they are mainstream, old people wear them(no offense), and everyone asks if it is real. I do appreciate their movements though. For proprietary movements, I'd rather go for Blancpain, Zenith, JLC, IWC, etc myself. I've had two out of the four, working on the other two.
Mine was a gift from a family member who moved up to a newer one and had no urge to own two. I have never had the desire to buy one, and this one sits on the winder most days. I don't really GET the watch thing - though I do appreciate the build quality.
The date is currently wrong on mine, and I haven't bothered to change it...kind of an "f-you" to my OCD side.
At 19 I went into a jewelry store to buy a decent watch for my 1st year in college. The most stunningly beautiful woman I had ever seen smiled at me and in an effort to disprove her haughty beauty and dismissive attempts at trying my luck with her, I foolishly spent my entire college savings on a gold Rolex...and no... I did not get to hit it.
My dad furious, loaned me the college money, and made me pay it back with interest. I wore it through college then put it away. When my dad retired I gave it to him. He never takes it off.
Okay...enough about Rolex watches..get back to Porsche Fashion. I give you clothing line designed by Porsche. It's in the 2015 Porsche Fashion line:
http://www.style.com/slideshows/fash...n/collection/1
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I had a Seamaster for a very long time, but I must fall in that category of people who can't own the Porsche or a mechanical watch as JohnnyIrish put it. I got tired of the having to wind the watch and adjust dates at the end of some months.
So I bought me a Manaslu and Oceanus Atomic+Solar powered titanium watches. Loving both, especially Oceanus. Manaslu requires the degree from MIT to use as there are so many functions and options to play with. But, I can tell the water temperature in the pool!
Ok enough about watches.
So a lady friend of mine got married and her husband bought her a new boxster and it came with this jacket, they split up after 3 months and he took the car back but she kept the jacket , so she gave it to me and I gave it to my girlfriend
You are right, the Porsche has way to many computers and electric gadgets. I am not really a modern car guy but I have to admit as long as it doesn't break I'm loving it. I wrenched on lots of old cars, many had flatheads. When I open the engine cover on the Porsche I don't recognize anything. My bikes and hot rods have ancient V8's with carbs, no fuel injection and no computers. They still run good and don't have 15 modes of failure either. The Porsche is in a world of its own and its the most fun car to drive I have. I'm keeping it.
Levi's, whatever shirt or shirts are appropriate to allow me to drop the top on my Cab and remain modestly warm, and a pair of Piloti driving shoes (the only "special" thing that I wear when driving my P-car).
I remain concerned with watches, particularly mechanical ones, due to the relativistic effects of speed on timekeeping accuracy. I presume the clock in my car, which always seems to "lose" time, takes those effects into account. Oh, those brilliant Porsche engineers think of EVERYTHING!
You're doing better than me then, I don't have a watch
In the early days of ownership cut off jeans and crappy Teva sandals were my norm. The looks I got were priceless. Unlike my Jag, however, I was never accused of stealing the 996.
I carry one of these in my center console. Been thinking of modding my center console to be a mini-fridge...
Vintage Grey Poupon Mustard Commercial "On a wiener!?" - YouTube
This is the episode I specifically think of when I think how NOT to represent myself or my car. I so don't want to be that guy. (and pretty sure my wife wouldn't be seen with me).
Great choice. Seiko is an older watch company than Rolex. I have a Seiko Sportsmatic Calander 820 that I have been lazy about getting running, but you have reawakened my desire to get it out of the drawer and onto my wrist. The Japanese embraced western technology at a time when China was turning its back on it. There is wonderful book on the history of Japanese cinema which has amazing stories of how the Japanese viewed the first movies from the west. The music company Yanagasawa is the Japanese Selmer of saxophones. And of course their volcanic soil has been a source of great camera lenses. When WWII was ending, the Germans left Japan and left behind a lot of their lens designs for Leica. The early Nikon rangefinders owe a lot to the Leica designs.
My love of Rolex and sports cars goes back to my childhood and my father. When he was playing tennis he would hand me his watch for safe keeping. I was amazed at the weight of it. And my favorite of his cars was a silver with red leather interior Facel Vega HK500.
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absolutely love the comment, when I'm working in the garage (cleaning or working on the car), I'm dressed like a bum, I'll go to Kroger for food (cough beer or bourbon after working on the car) in a ripped shirt, sweatpants, shorts, boat shoes (my old ones), etc.
So had a high-brow lunch today. Made sure all admired my watch. Certainly, everyone was in awe and fraught with jealousy!
Imagine if I had worn my talking watch! I save that for those special days when I take the Hyundai out.
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I have been pondering this discussion ... This is like the old tree falling in the forest question ...
Does it really matter what your wear "in" your Porsche? Are you not wearing the Porsche?
I haven't worn a wrist clock in years.. I want a set of porsche shoes... I had just bought bmw shoes after 10 years of ownership and then 6 months later sold all my BMWs...
iPhone's are old-school. I only make calls using a $2,000 Porsche Blackberry. Makes the calls much clearer and faster.
And, I receive calls from no one. If I wanna' speak to you, I'll have my people call your people.
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From Wikipedia:
Predating the Porsche Blackberry, there was the $700 Porsche Palm Pilot. It was powered by a non liquid cadmium battery and was known to overheat in the most moderate of climates.
In 1999 it was replaced by the aforementioned $2000 Porsche Blackberry. Although it was a significant improvement over the previous model, it was not considered a "real Porsche phone" by true enthusiasts and was lambasted for it's ugly display screen. It was later determined that it was poorly constructed and offered over 23 modes of failure, one of which was a poorly engineered internal microphone synthesizer (IMS) that would fail without warning, leaving the user unable to make calls, access the Blackberry server and, well, that's pretty much all a Porsche Blackberry could do anyway.
By 2006 a refresh of the classic Porsche Phone occurred with the introduction of the Porsche iPhone. For only $3800, new users received state of the art technology in a sleek new package. However, this newest model still suffered from chronic IMS failures, especially among those that only used their phones to occasionally text or surf **** while on the toilet.
4 years later, the appropriately named Porsche iPhone 4 debuted to great fanfare. Many consider this the perfect Porsche Phone and at $5300, a true bargain. A new redesign finally eliminated the IMS issue and just a few years later, the Porsche iPhone 4s was released for those wanting a phone that looked exactly like the Porsche iPhone 4, but offered almost undetectably quicker download speeds and the "s" insignia on the back of the case...for only $1200 more.
In 2013, Porsche went BIG with the unveiling of the Porsche Galaxy 5. Although it offered a HUGE display and major technical improvements, it was once again derided by true Porsche Enthusiasts, not for its $6500 price tag, but because it was way too big and way too technically advanced. Many called it the end of the great Porsche Phones.
Finally, in 2015, Porsche shocked the world with the Porsche iWatch, a gorgeous timepiece retailing for $9900 that also allowed its users to surf the Internet, text, take photos, access their calendar, track how many steps they walked, etc, etc, etc. It even made phone calls.
Alas, the Porsche iWatch never found favor with the Porsche Community. What the engineers in Stuttgart failed to foresee was that the Porsche demographic were unwilling to set aside their Rolexes, Grand Seikos, Breitlings, Bulovas, and the like to actually wear the Porsche iWatch.
As a result, the Porsche Phone division was eliminated in late 2015.
Edit: The Porsche Blackberry is now considered a classic. Models in excellent condition are selling for just over $65,000.
^Excellent. But tells me that you may have a little too much time on your hands!
Now, make yourself useful and go find me a guards red or speed yellow turbo over black leather for right at $30k. It's been 40 hours since I watched my 996 drive away with its new owner and I feel dead inside.
And a Hyundai gets you from point A to point B. Watches have become art--they are now admired for their craftsmanship, quality and lines. They are no longer a simple timepiece. Sort of like a wide-bodied 993.
I did that while watching the thrilling second half of the UK/Hampton game.
I assume you want that TT flawless with low miles? I'll keep an eye out for one on my weekend Unicorn hunt.
This may as well be my first post
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I usually wear Carhartt canvas work pants or jeans even though I have an office job, and some kind of Eddy Bauer lumberjack shirt or in the summer some Hawaiian shirt. Used to dress up better, but kind of going back to my more country roots, the dress shirts 'shrunk' and I got a bunch of shirts and stuff from my dad.
Which makes it even that much more fun to drive the car around as to a lot of people I wouldn't fit the normal stereotype of a Porsche owner.
To the point of the person who started the thread, having a nice watch can make a big difference. It's on my list of things to get, although my price range may be a bit less than others.
lol, you guys crack me up!! I'm so fancy!!! I wear levis, black v neck T shirts and vans skate shoes... same outfit I've had since 6th grade! I did fancy myself up with a Hamilton watch!!! the 911 doesn't do work functions, my minitruck did that duty until I added my new to me cayenne turbo, I dress business casual for work. Causal dress shirts and non "jean" pants with casual dress shoes. Airplane commute friendly
If I am able to awaken from my Hastens bed I often don this unique bit of kit and escape on a dawn patrol escape. **** a doodle doo. #1oo posts on the dumbest 996 topic.
Interesting to see the range of responses to this post.
The birth of Porsche in America came through engineers and American military personel who discoved the marque in post WW2 Germany. They are also responsible for the birth of Rolex watches in the US. Of course this was before either had become status symbols. Discussing Rolex in more detail is something I leave for the Vintage Rolex Forum, though sharing my Porsche with them didn't seem to inspire the hostility that sharing my Rolex here did.
People who are passionate about one thing often are passionate about many things. Cameras, guns, wine, rare books, fine art, music, and yes maybe a favorite tee shirt or pair of shoes or jeans or jacket. They are part of our being and they make our lives more satisfying.
I'm curious as to why so many here got bent out of shape over the original post.
I think most are just messin' with ya, not really hostile at all. Nice watch. A great vintage one surpasses a great new one any day.
As stated in some posts above, watches these days are generally more about the art form, rather than function.
If I just needed to tell the time, I could get that from at least 8 items in my direct line of sight right now: TV, cell phone, microwave, Keurig coffee maker, TV, DVD player, oven, and oddly enough, a real clock.
Now, if you want to find some genuine watch-posting despisement, check out this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/off-topi...ri-douche.html
There were more people than I thought who liked watches and owned one or wanted one. It seems like there are lots of things I like that are nothing more than a luxury. The Porsche for instance. Any car that will get from A to B is all thats needed, not one that goes 170mph and costs as much as some houses when they were new. I have motorcycles with V8 motors, one common question I'm asked is why I need one of those. The answer is "I don't, I just like it". Its the same with many things including fashions, we seldom just get what we need, we get what we want. Today I drove the Porsche to Los Angeles, it was fun and I wore my t shirt, tennis shoes, levi's and my watch, perfect day.
While I thoroughly enjoy owning my 911, the assertion that possessions - even really fancy ones acquired in Caracas - are "part of our being" smacks of superficiality. I don't understand (nor do I especially enjoy being in the presence of) people who define themselves by what they drive or what they strap onto their wrist.
I'd like to think that the stuff I've accumulated over the years has some worth (otherwise, I'd just be a hoarder). One of my most prized possessions is a 25-caliber Belgian-made Browning boot pistol manufactured under **** supervision that was captured by and passed down to me from a family member who oversaw the surrender of its SS officer owner. It's a material reminder of how catastrophically out of control the world can get in just a few years and a testament to the fantastic bravery many of our forbears exhibited during "the war to end all wars," WWII, the Korean war, Vietnam, etc.
Appreciating possessions for their inherent qualities and/or their historical significance makes sense to me; allowing yourself to be (or INSISTING on being) defined by your stuff does not.
John, I don't know you and I'm not calling you out or accusing you of being materialistic/shallow - rather, I'm just responding to the suggestion that our possessions are part of our being. I very much hope that our humanity is not dependent upon what kind of swag we own...
We just got (although it needs fixing) a real clock from my gf's grandpa. A really nice 80's mantel clock with a bunch of different chimes. In my room, although I forgot to wind it, is a nice WW2 porthole ship clock (not a ships clock, but a regular one from a ship) had it re-done a few years ago and it's been mostly running since.
I'm totally with you on vintage watches, plus for those of us on a budget, it's a easy way to get something nice but not breaking the bank. It's on my list, but most days I'm lucky if I remember to put my glasses and pants on that I'd just lose it or forget it somewhere.
For those that think otherwise and wanna be the ultimate poser, yes they did come up with a watch club. Just like car clubs where you pay a monthly fee to drive different exotic cars throughout the year, they also have it for watches too.
$10k, $20k, $40k tiers.
Lowest tier is $199/mo, Highest at $1399/mo. LOL
BTW, Rolex is in the lower tier. LOL
https://www.elevenjames.com
Any Porsche owner who does not admit that at least some motivation for owning one has to come from the mystique of the brand. It is a status symbol after all.
That's why I am surprised by the negative comments regarding Rolex and other expensive watches in this thread.
I'm sure the "mystique" is a major factor in many cities/states - but here in SoCal, there are plenty of Porsches and other "luxury" cars used as daily drivers. Driving a 911 (or a Corvette or an M3) isn't an especially big deal.
The eye-catching cars here are the ones that get driven every day despite being completely impractical. I see a blacked-out Exige almost every morning, and the middle-aged guy who lives a couple blocks from me daily drives one of his TWO Hummer H1's.
Agreed. Same here (although you do realize that a 911 is not a luxury car...it is a sports car dammit).
Still, if you ask most people, a dude driving a 911 and wearing a Rolex has got to be loaded (or leveraged).
I think our possessions are part of our being. Possessions don't make us better or worse but they do define our likes, otherwise we wouldn't have them. I think our likes are part of our being. Its possible but not probable that I don't understand the correct meaning of "our being".
Too Funny! Hell, its a 996 (in some peoples eyes Not even a Real Porsche)! Not like its a Saleen or a Bugatti! Hell, if its Hot Enuff i wear my Flip Flops (but i Don't drive it That Much anyway)!
the 991'ers , they wear jewellery
996,ers, we are the DIY guys.
I'm always doing something physical, any jewellery I've ever worn gets quickly destroyed
Whew! Just got back from a long stretch on the road and getting back into RL - what a thread!
When I'm not in business armor, it's usually just some cargo shorts and a t-shirt. Maybe a ball cap to keep the rays at bay - current fav is the freebie Jackpoint Jackstands one they gave me for buying a full set!
I've got some cool watches, but I don't wear them on weekends
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There is a mystique for me in the Porsche brand and there has been since I was a teenager. I care nought about what others think of my ownership; I just get a hell of a kick out of driving them!
I daily mine, so I just wear whatever I pull out of my wardrobe in the morning. (It's usually dark still.)
I would love to wear one of these though, but at $275,000.00, It would be hard to convince my missus that I need another watch.
http://www.porsche-design.us/Product...Indicator.html
Which reminds me that I have a pair of Porsche Design Adidas shoes. I bought them because they were actually on sale and cheaper than Nike's I was looking at the time.
Also used to have a PD P5000 Chrono but sold it awhile ago. Too much Porsche tax on those for what you're really getting imo...
My whole family got my birthday gifts from porsche design last year. Wife got the belt, bro got me 2 shirts, parents got the sweats, and sis got me the tennis shoes. I have only used the belt and shoes. The shirts and jump suit sweats are still hanging in my closet with the tags on them.
How do ya'll like my reading glasses? Could have bought a whole crate of 'em at the dollar store for the price of these.
Actually, I do have a crate of dollar store ones, too. Can never find some reading glasses when I need them.
But, the Porsche Design ones really allow for speed reading. Read all volumes of the encyclopedia in about an hour once. If I had the turbo ones, probably could have read them in 30 minutes.
I have a mate with a pair of those who drives a 2007 Nissan Pathfinder. Whe he sees it wearing those glasses he thinks he's getting into a 997, so good value IMHO.
You do realize that the left side hinge is a known failure point due to a weak screw pin. There you are one day, speed reading on Rennlist and...BAM!!!...the arm falls away from the lenses leaving you unable to continue reading Johnny Irish's latest thread.
Oh...and the lenses are ugly. They should be rounder.
If you love something...admire its design, execution, beauty, quality...that becomes part of your being. The Serpico Y Laino Rolex is not different than the same Rolex without that name on the dial. But the story of the two men who became Serpico Y Laino (1925-1966)...their lives bouncing from Italy to Venezuela to Switzerland and back...makes a watch that came from their store a special item among vintage Rolex collectors.
The gun you describe sounds fascinating...would love you to post some pictures of it. I love almost anything made from metal...pistols cameras swords hand tools navigation instruments typewriters..and then of course there is wood and pottery. It isn't about what you own, its about what you love.
I'm not arguing that it's awesome to possess intriguing things - I just don't think that those things can/should be part of what defines you. One's love for things mechanical might be innate, but the things themselves are just...stuff.
I see what you're saying... I haven't told them about them
but it's not done on a commercial scale. It's just a few for myself and some other people who liked them.
They're more tribute/fan items than "counterfeit". It's not something I'm making money on. I'm not in the clothing business. I just wanted some fun ones for myself...
It's like a 356 or 550 spyder replica. They don't seem to be too concerned about those either. But if I was selling them commercially, that's something different...
Yeah, you're probably right that Porsche would not pursue something like that.
Some companies though are very rabid about pursuing any unauthorized use of their name or logo.
I think if I threw these up on eBay or Etsy I'd get some heat from them. But this is just for fun, straight to fans and enthusiast. Very limited run. I just wanted one myself
Here is the proper attire when I'm in my Porsche. A pair of WALMART WINO'S for shoes. A SEIKO watch so I can pretend I have to be somewhere at a certain time. My Levi's and tanktop to impress any homeless I might come across while stopped at a red light begging for money.
Beautiful unt angular. Das is wunderbar for driving your 996 in Berlin and for front row seats to Sprockets, with your host Dieter......
Sprockets beautiful and angular - YouTube
So Ed...do you have a stiffy for me or something...do you dream about me at night and wake up with the morning wood? Are you president of the Johnny Irish Fan Club? I ask because you seem to be lurking here and on the 993 forum with an obsessive urge to honor me with your attention. And you already have gathered a nice little membership in your Johnny Irish fetish...mpruden, boman993, nile13, goofballdeluxe, RodKnock and embpilot. Do you all sit in a circle and hold hands...or something...and share your pictures of me and read my posts?
There's a special one week promotion of my new book on Amazon Kindle...maybe you all should take advantage of it and order it and read it. Then you'd have something new to talk about instead of my old posts. Anyway I just didn't want your fan worship to go unacknowledged.
Buffalo leather Driving shoes and an alligator skin thong. And my 20-year old stainless steel Rolex a Submariner.
Or shorts, tshirt and boat shoes. And a Rolex, maybe older, maybe not.
I wear my underwear when I changed out my winter treads for the new summer tires. Hey, I noticed as I was going this that my indy mounted the tires wrong!! The yellow dot is not lined up with valve stem AND 2 of them the yellow dot was mounted on the inside of the wheel. Should I have any problems?? I mean I **** my underwear when I noticed this, good thing that was all I was wearing. I am "****" about these things. well, I did wear mechanics gloves too.
Wait a minute is this the right thread????
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