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And they even tried to tell me they couldn't program it right coz' the memory control module under my seat needs to be replaced, $1000 PLUS labor, AND NO guarantee that will solve the problem!
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I seem to remember that, for the door locking function, the ROW keys use a different frequency than that used by US keys.
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I use an indy for all other PST2 functions, but had to go to the dealer to get keys mated.
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The only way to replace your key is to buy from the dealer or buy a "shell" and then transfer your key (metal portion) and the internals (brains/crystal) and have them reprogrammed.
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And they even tried to tell me they couldn't program it right coz' the memory control module under my seat needs to be replaced, $1000 PLUS labor, AND NO guarantee that will solve the problem!
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The only way to replace your key is to buy from the dealer or buy a "shell" and then transfer your key (metal portion) and the internals (brains/crystal) and have them reprogrammed.
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Yes you can re-use the blade but if you lose your key then you pay the higher amount since a new one has to be cut and only PCNA will give that info to your dealer.
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So is this correct?
My key remote stopped working and my shop doesn't reprogram them. The stealership is trying to charge me $77 to reprogram it or $220 for a new one.
Is this really what it costs? Or is Beverly Hills Porsche trying to overcharge me again?
The local dealership in this area charges approx. $175.00 for a new key and approx. $50.00 to reprogram. Everything for these cars is expensive, especially from the dealership.
Good luck!!
I've seen a bunch of places on ebay offering to sell you blank keys and remotes for a discount - the catch, of course, is you still gotta go to the dealer to get it cut & programmed.
Has anybody ever done this? Did the dealer actually cut it and reprogram it for you for the same price as if you'd bought the key from them, or do they give you a hard time?
Thanks,
- Nick
the problem with this is that the key you have it for YOUR car. If you buy one of the "used" key on eBay*you are just buying a nice piece of jewelry. The only way to replace your key is to buy from the dealer or buy a "shell" and then transfer your key (metal portion) and the internals (brains/crystal) and have them reprogrammed.
I bought my key from the dealer, and they charged me half hour labor to program it, which they couldn't get it right till today.
From what I understand, keys you buy on ebay will not work, UNLESS they come with the code that is unique to the key. There is a lable attached to new keys with a long list of numbers (or barcode? I can't remember). That is needed to program the key.
Yes you can re-use the blade but if you lose your key then you pay the higher amount since a new one has to be cut and only PCNA will give that info to your dealer.
My dealer didn't give me a hard time. He flat-out
refused
to program a key bought somewhere else. (Herb Chambers Porsche in Boston, if anyone cares.)
I was so appalled by the price for a new key from them that I've been living without the remote. I'll give in soon, I'm sure.
I am so pissed right now. I have been gone for the last 2 months. I get back remote refuses to come back to life. So I take it to my dealer yes the same one who was going to replace my serpintine belt on my 60K, charged me for it and did not do it. When I caught it when I got home and went in the next day and asked why it was not done they said "Oh we did not have one in stock". To this I said "When were you going to tell me about this?" reply "Oh I am sorry but your service advisor is not in today." Classic!!! But back to our story. So they attempt to re-program and it does not take (are you kiddin me!) Yes, so they sell me new head and re-program for 325 OTD F ME!!! But my new mats look great as does my RENNLIST plate frame! So there you go.....
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that most Porsche dealers attend the "shafting the customer 101" class. I have not been impressed with what I've seen from my local dealer... my guys are great at refusing to warranty Porsche parts... we don't like the design of your Porsche aero sides, so we won't warranty the install.
Boy ..... you did get screwed.
If a 996 owner needs a new key shaft (lost entire thing), they are available from Sunset for about $75 (with faxed proof of ownership).
I got my new remote key head on Ebay for $70. Be sure you get the bar code tag.
Took a this new combination, plus a valet key .... to Hennessy Porsche in north Atlanta. Service dept programmed both .... in about 10 minutes .... for a total of less than $50. Gave me a cup of Starbucks while I waited.
No. I'm saying that was my cost for key head and programming.
If you need an entire key, then my cost was:
$75 Key shaft from Sunset
$70 key head (with bar code) on Ebay
$47 programming car for this new key head (and a valet key).
I'm going to the dealer here in Scottsdale for a second key this weekend. New car only came with one. I'll let you know if they buy me dinner or go straight about their business.
Wow!
No dinner. No reach around. And I got left with sand and a jumpy gerbal behind. Here's the deal. The cost is 350$ and I have to come back and make an appointment so the mechanic can do the job. The nearest dealer is in Tuscon so I don't see as I have a choice.
The key Im getting with the car I purchased from the US is falling apart the last owner even taped it and its the only key left.
New key here in sweden from Porsche cost 350 USD!!!!
Is there anyway for me to be able to buy one in the USA ready to go?
Regards // Norbert
I guess you could get one off ebay (with the original code) and get your dealer to program it, if they are willing to do that for you. Ask them first. Or, get an Indy who can program it.
Getting the key from a dealer here is too much hassle. They ask for driver's licence, ID, etc, for security measures. Which I don't really mind, as it's a good thing for us owners.
Are you sure the dealer understands that you need ONLY the remote key head? You can pull your metal key shaft out of the old head and insert it in the new one.
Before you buy a remote key head from the US, be sure there it is compatible with "rest of world" electronics. I seem to remember that, for the door locking function, the ROW keys use a different frequency than that used by US keys.
Only a dealer can obtain the necessary information from Porsche to mate a new key transponder to a car's computer.
I use an indy for all other PST2 functions, but had to go to the dealer to get keys mated.
My Indy can order new keys, and he can program or reprogram keys with his PST2.
I found that out from him after I got mine from the dealer.
In fact, I still have to let him reprogram my new key that the dealer couldn't get done right.
Brumos Porsche in Jacksonville, Florida.
And they even tried to tell me they couldn't program it right coz' the memory control module under my seat needs to be replaced, $1000 PLUS labor, AND NO guarantee that will solve the problem! (WTF!?)
My original key still works fine with any new or old memory setting, so I'm not buying that explaination they gave me. Besides, I don't adjust my seat as I'm the only one driving, so I'm not spending $1000 PLUS labor, and MAYBE then they'd be able to do the programming right.
Anyway, my Indy told me he has heard of that scenario before several times, where dealers couldn't program new keys correctly to work with the car memory settings. It's a step that they miss out or not do correctly. He said he can try reprogramming the key, and IF it really is the memory control module that is faulty, he will simply disable the key-to-car memory function. (Problem with new key is, when disarming the car, the driver's seat goes all the way back and seatback goes all the way down. It won't recall my personal settings like my original key does.)
Sounds like we need to 'send the boys round for a little chat' - your stealership is obviously getting you to personally fund their kids through college or something!
Tossers!
just got back from the dealer, I asked him how much for a key...I need one only have one
He said
150 for the key
150 for the top
90 for the program
OMG....ITS A KEY
My dealer just told me it was $150 to reprogram the key. Reading this thread it becomes obvious this is a rather subjective fee they set.....I am better informed now....I will contact the dealership and advise them that the price seems to fluctuate by geographical area and see what they say....probably tell me to take it to where it's cheaper....100 miles away!!.
I was forced to pay $150 at the local Stevens Creek, even though:
* They thought I bought the key at the parts department.
* I transferred the immobilizer pill and key blade for them.
* They only had to add the bar code, and the tech goofed it up twice because he couldn't type. (Still took only 10 minutes.)
* I had to ASK that they delete the code from the dead key as they would normally just leave the old broken codes in there. (You have 4 slots for codes.)
I was polite but basically WTF. I was told quite bluntly that they have to pay for their new PIWIS somehow so they don't care if it only took 10 minutes.
I'd be surprised if an independent can reprogram the key. You need to have a hookup to Porsche in order to obtain a programming key to access the protected area in the car. You need that key to enter that code into the PIWIS/PST2 to gain access. My understanding is only the Porsche dealer network can get these programming codes (which have nothing to do with the codes of the keys themselves).
I was going to say the same thing...$77 is a lot cheaper than the $150 raping that the local dealership seems to want. You should consider yourself fortunate and just get it done for that price.
saw this post and wanted to add something to it. i got out of the club at 415a, tired as hell. Valet loses my key. that was the only key i had for this car! i was pissed but i have know these guys for seven years and they have parked all my cars so i know they didnt lose it on purpose and will refund me either way. anyways, i ended up spending 4.5 hrs TRYING to find a flat bed towtruck to get my car to the dealer or at least home.
long story short: got car to dealer. dealer charged me 306 for the DAMM KEY AND REMOTE and they now wana charge me $150 for an hour of labor, which i know by reading this post that it should only take 15min tops. so the total my valet guys will pay is $100 for the tow, 456 for the key + my time = $600 bucks. if this was my fault, i would NOT want to pay this 306 for a FUGGEN KEY, ITS A FUGGEN KEY, NOT ANYTHING ELSE! owning this car makes me question Porsche's commitment to its owners.
