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- Get your lazy *** off the couch and go for a few test drives.
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Before I bought my 996, I test drove the 993 first and then the 996.
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I posted this on the 993 forum in order to get an accurate idea of the build quality between some broad remarks often amde in the most popular of all questions; 996 vs 993
please feel free to contribute a PRODUCTIVE opinion here I'm very interested in what you have to say
Aww this **** again.........have you ever heard of the search function?
IMHO, the 993 and the 996 are both great cars. You won't go wrong buying either car.
That being said, I would say the following;
The 993;
- feels more "raw" for lack of a better term
- has an interior that is much more reminiscent of past 911's
- exhibits a nice "thunk" when you close the doors
- has more of a DNA link with past 911's
The 996
- feels more "modern" for lack of a better term
- is faster in every way (from acceleration to top speed)
- has superior handling and braking.
- has a stronger/stiffer chassis
- is less maintenance intensive
Honestly, if you ask a guy driving a 993 he will probably prefer it and if you ask a guy driving a 996 he will probably prefer it. Furthermore you can find guys that have switched both ways (993 to 996, or 996 to 993) that are perfectly happy.
Do yourself (and us) a favor by doing the following.
- Close both threads (you will only generate hard feelings on both sides and it will deteriorate - once again "search function")
- Get your lazy *** off the couch and go for a few test drives.
That way "YOU" can decide which car is best for you.
Good luck.
Ray, I dont think you got your point across, you need to be a little more direct. haha
But Ray is right, all this does is create pissing matches between the two.
Ditto EVERYTHING above.
Will add this;
I did the drive test having an old 911 and moving "up" - bought the 996.
The feel of the 993 for me did not offer the move "up" but when I sat in the 996 and hit the pedal, I knew instantly that was the ride I needed.
The wife really identified the difference, "the dash on the 996 is not in your face, there is leg room and it has a CUP HOLDER"!
It may take you a while to "personalize" a 996 but once you do - you won't regret it!
Do your DD, go drive a few cars - all of them from the TT to the Cab - you will REALLY see the differences.
eric
If you are buying a car to DRIVE, the above makes the decision pretty easy, no?
I had two 80's 944s, and am so DONE with nursing an "antique" Porsche back to health!
If you have to ask the Question... then you do not understand the car's enough to be given an answer!
Do some leg work and search learn, and if you need clarity on a subject, Like leg room??? I will be driving XXXX do you think this is Important??? Warranty, Another topic specific that will not lead to a "Pissing contest"
FYI Your Question comes across like one that is trying to start a fight.
I love P-Cars ALL of them...Most of them... but I bought mine for my SPECIFIC needs
I used to own a 993 C4S and just bought a 996. I took my wife for her first drive this weekend and the first thing she said was, "Wow! I like this car a lot more than your old one."
What does this mean? It just means the two cars are really "apples and oranges". My 996 rides better, is more comfortable , and performs better than my 993 ever did.
That being said, I would love to have another 993 again some day....but only if I could keep a 996 or 997 in the garage too.
Started with a 68' 912, then a perfect 79' 911, and now a 99' 996. I think the 996 is the best Porsche I've owned so far. No doubt a newer (evolved) 997 will be even better than this. The end.
Gotta love the "hand made" argument.
Evidently, the 993 was "handmade" right next to the "hand made" Boxster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1XpL...elated&search=
After watching these videos (below), I'm not so sure "hand made" is a plus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQHOeXyvn5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qeWr0GXccQ
In general the 993 forum is pretty much full of **** when it comes to this topic. The funny part is I think some of them actually believe what they are writing.
Me: 964 to 993 to 996. I can buy anything I want (within reason). I now own a 996.
OT: I was at the BMW dealer last week and some ******** salesdroid was driving the **** out of a Carrera GT up & down the street. Man oh man, did it sound good! Of course, some poor S.O.B. is going to be buying a used GT garage queen that has spent more time bouncing off of the rev limiter than it has idling. Oh well.
Michael
El Torrente
Man that pic is f------ hilarious!
No kidding brother. So long as you like the car you have what else matters. Person that started this thread and the one on the 993 forum is a troll and some fell into his trap.
Before I bought my 996, I test drove the 993 first and then the 996. When I drove the 993, I loved the acceleration and handling. I had a nice smile on my face. When I drove the 996, my grin was from ear to ear and I was sold. The 996 is faster if that is one of your considerations.
Too funny. Next to the oil threads, this is always one of my favorites. Good news for me, it comes up with some degree of regularity.
Are there some sort of related 997 vs 996 threads that perhaps I have missed? After all, we all know the 996 was the last of the "pure" water cooled Porsches, and the 997 is a mere shadow of the 996. All tarted up with excess weight and phoney retro styling for posers and soccer moms. Plus, I went to this one dealer, who had sold at least two Porsches, and he told me if I bought a 997, the salesman would likely come to my house in the dead of night and rape my dog.