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YOUR RESEARCHFinally got my lift set up for 2 cars!
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Luckily my garage is just a hair over 18 feet wide, the only issue is the ceiling is too low.
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Real heavy and not something I would recommend without a lot of help.
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Fantastic...I have the same setup...and I had to replace the door and install torsion bar as well.
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I thought about buying a lift for my future, used (new-to-me) POS, but I figured the lift would cost half as much as the POS, so I couldn't justify the expense!
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If it comes over the car like mine then you will need at least 9' over the area where the garage door returns so you can use a high lift track system for the door.
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You may remember back in September when I got the lift. Well, with a little creative framing I can now get a second car under the top one! Wow, now on to a new floor and one of the race cars gets to come home
It is a Direct Lift from Derek Weaver Company in Fort Worth. I ended up with them because I could drive over and actually see what I was buying. They brought it over to Dallas and set it up so it was much easier than doing it long distance. Figure around $2,000 plus freight for someone to set it up for you. Real heavy and not something I would recommend without a lot of help. I did a lot of research before buying and for me a lift in this price range is more than enough. All manufacturers or distributors who sell in this range get them from China by the way. Not a problem for me.
wow!
Any more details on the "...creative framing..."?
How much room is there from the top of the garage doors when open and the ceiling pre and post the creative framing work?
Am I to understand correctly that the lift was $2000 for parts AND installation not including freight? Or was the $2k just for installation?
OK This got complicated. You need around 11 - 12' for two sports cars. Obviously more room for sedans. BUT, the real problem is the garage door. If it comes over the car like mine then you will need at least 9' over the area where the garage door returns so you can use a high lift track system for the door. With this track the garage door returns over the hood of my 964 and the coffer we framed in the ceiling lets the roof of the 964 go high enough. If you look closely at the pic you can see it.
Yes, the lift with install was $2,000 BUT(again) I bought new garge doors since mine were too low and old so that was $2,800 plus with the high lift track a standard door opener will not fit anymore so I bought a really cool Chamberlian opener that mounts on the torsion bar and turns it to open and close the door(another $325 on EBay) which I installed myself.
This was the end of years of planning which at one point had me building real carriage doors that would swing out manually. Glad I didn't go that route!
Here's a tip: Make sure to move the bottom car BEFORE you lower the top one!!
I knew I shouldn't have opened this thread - I hit my head on my one-car garage ceiling!
Thanks for the follow up. Luckily my garage is just a hair over 18 feet wide, the only issue is the ceiling is too low. Cannot go with the opener like you got because our garage door is one of the ones overlaid with wood (carriage style) and the openers like you got are not strong enough...
Fantastic...I have the same setup...and I had to replace the door and install torsion bar as well. Overall, a great investment. However, I bleiieve my floor to ceiling measurement is about 10' 8" and it's fine. If anyone wants to do this, make sure you bolt the opener as close to the ceiling as possible in order to get the right clearance when the door lifts.
I love the lift, and used to keep all the drip pans toward the rear. However, when I had brake fluid leak a few years back....it marred up the bimmer pretty nicely. Ask me how I know. KEEP A DRIP PAN IN THE FRONT!!!
Have fun....wait till you see how easy an oil change is now.
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Steven - I can't believe you bought that lift! It's BLACK and doesn't match the cars!
Seriously, I can tell that a lot of thought went into the process! Good job!
I thought about buying a lift for my future, used (new-to-me) POS, but I figured the lift would cost half as much as the POS, so I couldn't justify the expense! Besides that, I figured it would be hard to get one painted to match the POS because no company paints their lifts in faded flat black with rust sopts!
Very nice. It's alot of work to get 12' ceilings in a std garage... but seems you pulled it off nicely!
I think I'm just going to get a portable scissor lift by bendpak for mine when the time comes.
OK Here are my new doors and the opener I had to use with the high lift track. The doors are insulated metal painted to look like wood. People think they are real in person! Real wood is real heavy...these are not
Not a big deal at all. Go up a few inches to raise the locking mechanism and then hold the lever in to let it down. Probably a minute or so. It runs on 120v also which was real nice.
Thanks everyone for the nice comments. After years in the planning and saving it is nice to actually have it work!
Plenty of room on each side. I will try and take a pic tomorrow. I got the jacking plate but not the jack itself. I did buy the oil change rolling tub but I am not sure how much jacking I will do on the lift. My current plan is to store mainly with the lift and put the car I am working on in the open floor space.
Very nice setup! The only thing I would add is that when I do this (in the near future) I will ONLY buy American made setups. yes they cost more but I have heard NO stories on USA made lifts and a ton of horror storries on the Asian made variety.
Yes, I heard this also and is why I drove over to see and discuss it with them. Weaver has been selling lifts for a long time and I got comfortable with them and their installers recomendations. Each person has to make this decision on their own but even most of the American companies have a lower cost Chinese lift now also.
Yes they do. But you have to ask yourself why the cost is cheaper? Materials is a big reason why. I am sure the number of Asian made lifts that fail is a small number it is just that the vast majority of failed lifts happen to be the one's Asian made.
This is exactly what I've been thinking of doing! It looks like I can get by with just extending the track height on my current door...for a measly $1800!
Thanks for the pics and the info!
Pat - You are kidding about $1,800 just to extend the garage door track height, right? Hell, I'll come down there and do it for $900.
Seriously, the parts can't be more than a couple of hunderd dollars.
