fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
11 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCH1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Leading reported evidence

Check with other p car owners

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

There are some pretty sharp guys in some of the shops, so you'd better do some checking with other P car owners to find a "Porsche friendly" shop....especially if you're supercharged.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Check with other p car owners' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Check with other p car owners' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 11 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 4 other evidence results

Clean ....and the guy misses the supercharger

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

The only possibility of passing is if they run the emissions part first and it comes back clean, which the Porsches usually do....come back clean....and the guy misses the supercharger on the visual...which is sort of difficult to do since there's not much room back there to hide a supercharger.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Run emissions part first and it comes back

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

The only possibility of passing is if they run the emissions part first and it comes back clean, which the Porsches usually do....come back clean....and the guy misses the supercharger on the visual...which is sort of difficult to do since there's not much room back there to hide a supercharger.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test " the car

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Also it's important that you "pre-test" the car.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test before it can be sold

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

isn't a car supposed to be able to pass through a smog test before it can be sold?

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??
Frequently discussed actions (10)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Check with other p car owners

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

There are some pretty sharp guys in some of the shops, so you'd better do some checking with other P car owners to find a "Porsche friendly" shop....especially if you're supercharged.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Clean ....and the guy misses the supercharger

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

The only possibility of passing is if they run the emissions part first and it comes back clean, which the Porsches usually do....come back clean....and the guy misses the supercharger on the visual...which is sort of difficult to do since there's not much room back there to hide a supercharger.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Run emissions part first and it comes back

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

The only possibility of passing is if they run the emissions part first and it comes back clean, which the Porsches usually do....come back clean....and the guy misses the supercharger on the visual...which is sort of difficult to do since there's not much room back there to hide a supercharger.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test " the car

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Also it's important that you "pre-test" the car.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test before it can be sold

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

isn't a car supposed to be able to pass through a smog test before it can be sold?

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test does actually pass smog

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

This might actually work, that is if the run test does actually pass smog.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test on the car's record

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

That way you never have a failed test on the car's record

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test the previous owner told me it had passed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

When I took my 87 in for the smog test, the previous owner told me it had passed with flying colors and had the paperwork to show it....so when it came time to smog mine, I went in fat, dumb, and happy.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test when you bought it

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Yes, your car should have had to pass the test when you bought it.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??

Test with flying colors

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

End result....the SC's pass the emissions part of the test with flying colors, but the minute the emissions guys take a look at the engine bay and see the supercharger, you flunk on the spot.

1999 w/ EVO S/C - smog test in CA??
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

11 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Generation: 20261026T130754Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hmm ... I was just reading through these forums (just got a 99 986 with EVO S/C two months ago) but it seems like I'm going to have problems going through a smog test? Hmm ... isn't a car supposed to be able to pass through a smog test before it can be sold? My registration goes until next June but not sure if I'm going to have to do something before then ...

POST 2Original post

Yes, your car should have had to pass the test when you bought it. If it passes the visual inspection, you will probably pass the smog. This is what keeps me from bolting a SC on my car.....if only it was CARB certified!

POST 3Original post

Yep the seller is suppose to get a smog prior to selling, however the seller can do that prior to installing the S/C. I know there is a time limit on the smog certificate and I believe that is 90 days, so that is enough time to do anything. Maybe the previous owner R&R the S/C for smog tests, I would talk to the seller about how they managed it. But the bottom-line is that without the CARB on the S/C it will not pass smog.

POST 4Original post

With a S/C installed you will not pass the visual..

POST 5Original post

I'm sure you've done a search on this subject and you would have seen that there is a lot of discussion about how EVOM could have gone thru the CARB certification process and made it beneficial for the California folks to install their SC'er and get thru smog inspections....but for whatever reason, they just wont' get off their *** and do the necessary work to get their product line CARB certified. Given the reputation and quality of their product line, and the number of Porsche owners in California, this is indeed a curious issue....becasue from an economic point of view, they could sell a lot of superchargers here....so what's the hold up? Only Todd can answer that. End result....the SC's pass the emissions part of the test with flying colors, but the minute the emissions guys take a look at the engine bay and see the supercharger, you flunk on the spot. There are a number of fellows who have superchargers who get thru emissions tests by either taking out the supercharger and reverting it to stock or....................necessity is the mother of invention.

POST 6Original post

A lot of smog shops have never seen a Porsche engine before and would pass a SC'd vehicle's visual test if the engine bay is clean and spotless. I would suggest you detail the whole car, including engine, and try to find a mechanic that doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground. " yeah, this one of those Superchaged models"

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 4705437

This might actually work, that is if the run test does actually pass smog. Find yourself a SC badge from say a 911 SC and place that on your car (SC = Super Charged) What's the worse that could happen, being sent to a referee station, GL if you get there though

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 4705559

Hehe the SC badge might very well work. Also it's important that you "pre-test" the car. ie: have a test that's not official. If it passes, then go for the official one. That way you never have a failed test on the car's record

POST 9Original post

Annodizing that polished blower black can make it look oem...and might help out as well

POST 10Original post

Hey guys....nice try....but you're up against something called a database....ever heard of those? When they enter your VIN number it brings up certain criteria....which may or may not include the supercharger. When I took my 87 in for the smog test, the previous owner told me it had passed with flying colors and had the paperwork to show it....so when it came time to smog mine, I went in fat, dumb, and happy. What he forgot to tell me was the car didn't the right exhaust system and that he'd borrowed the right stuff to get it thru smog. The smog guys plugged my VIN number into the computer and the guy came back to me right off the bat saying that my car was improperly set up. He did a visual and confirmed it wasn't right. As it turns out I did have an MSD ignition unit in it also, and the first thing he did was look for the CARB sticker for the MSD and entered that in the computer...and it came back OK. If they see something out of line, they start looking for the CARB sticker. I do know that some of the smog shops won't know a Porsche from a Pontiac and hire guys that don't know how to sign their names....but there are a lot of them out there who do know what they're doing, and what's supposed to be there, or not be there. I got one of the shops that knew what belonged....so when my flunked, the info went into the database and I was F*****D. I had to go buy an OEM muffler and cat to get the thing through smog....then put it back to where it was. I keep the OEM muffler and cat for any subsequent checks or for loan to any needy Rennlister faced with the same dilemna. I think that some of you guys are making some erroneous assumptions that all the smog shops are staffed with dunderheads....not so. There are some pretty sharp guys in some of the shops, so you'd better do some checking with other P car owners to find a "Porsche friendly" shop....especially if you're supercharged. There is no CARB exemption sticker for a supercharged Porsche....and the database will kick it back. The only possibility of passing is if they run the emissions part first and it comes back clean, which the Porsches usually do....come back clean....and the guy misses the supercharger on the visual...which is sort of difficult to do since there's not much room back there to hide a supercharger. I have known one fellow who got through because the guy didnt' know the nice silver thingy in there was a supercharger. Bottom line....it's a crap shoot with the odds stacked against you....and its no easy task to put the supercharger back to stock every time you have to go thru smog.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the advice -- I gotta go back and ask the seller what he was doing to get the car through smog. The EVO S/C in the car is #0020 (it's a 1999) so I am assuming it's been there for a while.

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.