need help. planning to buy 02 c4s at paul miller porsche NJ

I am considering buying a 2002 c4s at paul miller porsche in New Jersey. Does anyone have any experience with this dealership? I live in chattanooga tn and have only seen pics and gone over the car with the salesman over the phone. It's sounds good. 1 owner with no paintwork and service history all at the same paul miller porsche. Does any forum member live closeby that could look at it for me and give me unbiased input?nay help would be greatly appreciated as it is my first big porsche purchase and I am a little nervous. before I buy plane tickets. the dealership said that is was inspected by them and everthing checks out. they will offer an aftermarket warranty because it's over 50k miles. any advice would be appreciated. thanks in advance. Mike in chattanooga [phone removed]

the car on their website says that it is a C2??????????? Is there another car that is not shown?

I bought all 3 of my Porsches from Paul Miller in Parsippany. All my service was done there as well. 1991 944S2 2000 996 C2 2003 C4S Which salesman are you dealing with? What's the sales price? They are a big dealer up here in Northern NJ (Paul Miller or Jack Daniels are the 2 major ones, aside from Catena who's in Central Jersey). I've had all good experiences with my purchases there, I did have a slight issue with my 944S2 when I first purchased it. There was a water leak near the windshield but I managed to fix it before I had to take it to them.

I found it....It actually looks fantastic. It does not show on their normal site.....but does appear on the pre owned porsche.com site. Here's the link. This is exactly how I found my C4S. I grabbed it before it even hit their own site. This must be a new arrival for them. If I was a bit closer, I'd love to go out for you. Check the NNJR site I referred you to before, all the shops are great, and the independant's might even be able to go out there and do the PPI since there are lifts at the dealer. http://paul-miller.porschedealer.com...ntoryid=319559 Best of luck, J

Only thing the car is missing (in my opinion) is Litronic headlights...

thanks for all the great info. I can't wait to pick it up. first I have to make sure I get a ppi. Independents come out to the dealer? hard to believe, but i hope your right!. I try my best tuesday to set it up. thanks mike if you have a name of someone who will come out fantastic.

on another ad web site is says Bi-xenon headlights? is this the same as litronic headlights?

I think the Advanced Technic package includes the Xenon/Litronic lights......

Ok, then it's a goodie!

mkgtn, I can't get there this week but would be more then happy to look at it next week if that works for you. I would check the option codes listed under the hood and could recommend a good PPI shop to take a look at it.

Yes, it has Bi-Xenon headlights. You can see the silver headlight disks on the headlight assembly. Bi-Xenon headlights require headlight washers.

I would wonder why they don't certify it. My understanding is that they can certify beyond 50,000 miles. I thought I read somehwhere they could actually certify up to 80,000 miles. I am sure someone here can quote chapter and verse on that. It only costs them about $1000 to certify the car and give you the warranty.

good luck... and nice find!!!

Great price! Why so cheap? The 60k service is due?

I live real close. I can take a look for you Saturday, don't know how they feel about people taking it for a spin who aren't the acutal interested buyer. I have to stop by there for some parts. Although last Saturday their parts/ service department was supposed to be open but they never opened. Went to Ray Catena in Edison instead, which is a top notch facility by any luxury standard. Have you asked about the CPO option? Sometimes they don't offer it right away, particularly if the price is low.

Porsche WILL CPO a car that outside the new vehicle warranty. Check out the top of page 4 (gray boxes) in the link below. http://www.porsche.com/filestore.asp...letype=default

Bought a PO C2 from Paul Miller a couple of years ago. Good car; horrible experience. There are plenty of used Porsche's out there. Find another one.

Why was the experience so bad?

I found the salesman utterly dishonest, and the sales manager worse. There was one story after another with regard to price, CPO status, previous ownership, condition of the car, etc. I finally got the true story elsewhere and bought the car--it was EXACTLY the one I wanted and thus was hard to walk away from. However, that Porsche even allows this dealership to exist demeans the brand. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Porsche guy and will continue to own the cars, but this was an almost unbelievable experience. I will not be returning and, since a prospective buyer asked, I don't think this is the dealership to buy from--especially over the net!

What is the difference between the 02 and 03? Why are the 02s selling for so much cheaper?

From what I understand...there aren't any real notable differences between '02 and '03. Not even to '04 as well. Your deal sounds pretty good. Any luck with it??? J

Hi..... I think the car is on ebay.....might be able to pick it up a lil cheaper??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem Here's another auction with what looks a like a darn good deal too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem J