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YOUR RESEARCH$430 for a brake flush!? gimme a ... break
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I don't want them to replace the brake rotors, I just want the brake FLUID changed!"
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I asked the lady if she was sure, doubled checked, yup...
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so its ok to disconnect the motive, add brake fluid, reconnect, re pressurize mid process?
Fill brake reservoir and the rest into the bleeder (
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Then fill the brake reservoir and the rest into the bleeder (using 2 liters).
Inspect air bubbles we hear a psssssssssssssssssssssss sound
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Long story short....we were bleeding Scott's brakes and while we were BOTH at the right rear inspecting for air bubbles we hear a psssssssssssssssssssssss sound that we couldn't figure out what it was.
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you have to remember, and this has no bearing on the original poster, that most people who buy these cars, at these prices, do not even know or care what tire pressure is, much less changing brake fluid.
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called dealer in NYC (closest to me) to see what they might charge for this....They called me back with this price. I asked the lady if she was sure, doubled checked, yup... thats the price
geez.
$30 for fluid and a six pack of beer is all it takes at my place
$430??? $20 a liter x 2 for a full flush and 3-4 hours of labor? They should be ashamed of themselves.
Probably will do it at my local indy and forgo the ABS flush part as he doesnt have the right computer. He is an old schooler and does not believe in the motive method as well...
hey guys, while the price might seem high to you, anyone living in the tri-state metro area would not be too shocked by that number.
you have to remember, and this has no bearing on the original poster, that most people who buy these cars, at these prices, do not even know or care what tire pressure is, much less changing brake fluid.
so my guess, is that if they are told that this is what must be done to keep up the warranty, while they might not be happy about paying it, they will.
btw---as typical with all trades in nyc, just getting someone to you front door is worth at least $250 show-up money.
just my .02, no flames, please.
I think I would have told her "No, you don't understand. I don't want them to replace the brake rotors, I just want the brake FLUID changed!"
Dell, is that price bad enough for "the umbrella story?"
I did as her to double check... lady sounded busy and uninterested... this has to be a misunderstanding but Im not going to peruse it. Will go at it old school this time.
Dell, you and I are thinking of two differnet things. I hadn't heard about your blue ATE shower until now. I would have loved to see that!
I was talking about getting the ultimate screw job on price for a service from the dealer. That's when they bend you over, shove an umbrella up your ***, open it up, and then pull it out!
I hope you didn't mean the Motive Power Bleeder system as what he doesn't believe in! If so...Old Schooler's do have a lot of experience, but if they get too set in their (antiquated) ways and aren't open to new developments in the industry, I'd wonder where else they're "missing the mark" when working on my car.
The Motive Power Bleeder is a pretty great development and works very well. Unless he has some multi-thousand dollar Snap-On computerized flushing system, the Motive bleeders used correctly will be a better flush than the foot-pump method, and be more preventative from getting air into your system.
Lot's of fans of the Motive on this site (and probably some haters too!
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+1 !
I used one last fall and even for a ****** like me it took 30 minutes and was so easy I couldn't believe it once I remembered to put the O ring in the cap before pumping! <red faced>
This dealer should be shot for taking advantage of people.
There had to be other work they were throwing in as well and don't tell me an inspection either...
Oh crap, I should have just kept my mouth shut!
Long story short....we were bleeding Scott's brakes and while we were BOTH at the right rear inspecting for air bubbles we hear a psssssssssssssssssssssss sound that we couldn't figure out what it was. Well, since we had the car on the lift and the lift raised to a height so we could do the brakes standing up we didn't see that the power bleeder line going into the reservoir had cracked and.....well....you can only imagine.
When Scott went to investigate the sound and saw what was happening, I'll never forget the sound of the panic in his voice that paint eating ATE super blue was spraying a fine mist all over his car. HOLY F*CK!!!!!!
Luckily we got the spray cleaned up quicker than you can imagine and promptly went to Lowe's to buy supplies to rebuild the bleeder.
Sorry Scott
SOOOOO
NOW we know why he really sold his car
He said, Dell convinced him... boy thats a tricky way of going about it.....
HOLY F is right.... ATE blue... on the carpets too??? what a mess.... reminds me of blowing an egg up in the microwave.... its all calm and cool the WHAM !! you have a hell of a mess to clean up
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you don't have to fill the motive w/ brake fluid. I don't. I just use it to pressurize the reservoir. Just make sure your reservoir doesn't dip below the min line and suck in air.
Sure - no problem with that.
Are you just bleeding them, or doing a full fluid flush? If doing a full flush, you may be taking the motive off a bunch of times... I go through a liter or 2 when I do a flush.
From my experience, the best way to do a flush is to pressurize the bleeder with NO FLUID IN IT and open the RR caliper and bleed until nothing is left. Then do the same for each of the others. Then fill the brake reservoir and the rest into the bleeder (using 2 liters). Then start again at the RR and go until the fluid starts to flow and no bubbles. Voila!
Bled mine last year with the Motive, when I did new pads & rotors
Whats the deal with the using the durametic to bleed the ABS pump? I did not have a duramatric when I did my brakes but I have one now.
new 6.x durametric has 3 buttons to activate abs pump... (3 on and 3 off - not sure why)
Just got an unexpected call back from the dealership this AM. The lady said she confirmed the price again and it IS $430 due to 2 hours labor involved.
FYI, I also asked about ATF and final drive flush and (are you sitting down?) total from them for the work is $1630 + tax.
they have appointments available for next business day (I wonder why).
You can call my guy in East Norwalk across the street from Metro North RR station. My car is at his place for the 90K tune up and a complete freshen up right now. His price is very competitive. You can get to his place and back on the train from NYC.
Thanks chsu74. There are a few closer alternatives. my research has come up with formula motor sport in LIC and SM motorsport in Nassau. Also, got in touch with Bill Rudtner who is away in Sebring right now.
Or can always go to my regular guy who is 1 mile away from me, seems competent but rather old school.
I like using the dealer quotes to justify new tools for the home. "Honey, $430 for a fluid change when I can do it at home for $80 in tools and $40 in fluids? It's a no brainer. I'll order from Pelican right away."
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