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YOUR RESEARCHEngine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

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Combined work: Replace oil/air separator bellows and it was + Run like a champ

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

My CEL has been on for a few days but has historically been a MAF issue that comes and goes. I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months. However, the constant state CEL returned and then left and returned again recently.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

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Leading evidence: 'Combined work: Replace oil/air separator bellows and it was + Run like a champ' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'ignition coils' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Combined work: Replace oil/air separator bellows and it was + Run like a champ' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace alternator

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Alternator was replaced around the same time frame due to catastophic failure.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Replace oil/air separator bellows and it was

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Replace plugs

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Plugs were changed about 10k miles ago and the coil packs were inspected.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Run like a champ

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...
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Combined work: Replace oil/air separator bellows and it was + Run like a champ

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

My CEL has been on for a few days but has historically been a MAF issue that comes and goes. I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months. However, the constant state CEL returned and then left and returned again recently.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

Replace alternator

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Alternator was replaced around the same time frame due to catastophic failure.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Replace oil/air separator bellows and it was

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Replace plugs

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Unsuccessful attempts
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Plugs were changed about 10k miles ago and the coil packs were inspected.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Run ...but felt like something holding it back

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Suggestion

Agree with Redridge...at least to keep it cheaper and more positive....I had similar syptoms when I picked up my 996 shipped from New York...turned out to be a bad coil on one cylinder....felt like it was running a few cylinders short, but would run...but felt like something holding it back.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Run but needed

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Suggestion · Original poster

Car would not start at first but finally did and ran but needed to be coaxed to run.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Run few cylinders short

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Suggestion

Agree with Redridge...at least to keep it cheaper and more positive....I had similar syptoms when I picked up my 996 shipped from New York...turned out to be a bad coil on one cylinder....felt like it was running a few cylinders short, but would run...but felt like something holding it back.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Run like a champ

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...

Run over bad pavement

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Suggestion · Original poster

Engine feels rough, almost as if I was running over bad pavement.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...
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ignition coils

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Suspected cause

Agree with Redridge...at least to keep it cheaper and more positive....I had similar syptoms when I picked up my 996 shipped from New York...turned out to be a bad coil on one cylinder....felt like it was running a few cylinders short, but would run...but felt like something holding it back.

Engine misfires, need diagnostic ideas...
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My CEL has been on for a few days but has historically been a MAF issue that comes and goes. I thought I had cured it by replacing the oil/air separator bellows and it was running like a champ for several months. However, the constant state CEL returned and then left and returned again recently. While cruising at about 75mph and about 3 hours into my trip, the car hiccups and the CEL starts flashing. Engine feels rough, almost as if I was running over bad pavement. Got off of the interstate at the next exit and the car cuts off as soon as the RPM's drop. Fortunately was able to get to a gas station and do some inspection. No fluids from the bottom of the engine. The coolant levels appear OK and the oil level and color is perfect. I suspected the MAF so I pulled the plug to force the car into limp mode so I could find a NAPA. Car would not start at first but finally did and ran but needed to be coaxed to run. Would not idle at all. Very rough running. Nursed her to an Advance auto to get the codes read and came up with a MAF code ( as expected esp, after unplugging it), multiple misfires, add'l codes for misfires on cylinders 1, 2, and 3, and an evap canister purge valve misfire code. Cleared the codes, plugged the MAF back in, and restarted to see what she'd do. Started but would not hold idle again. Clearly misfiring. Pulled the codes and the MAF was gone but the evap code remained and it was showing several misfires. Nursed her to the Porsche dealer, such as it is here, and left her for diagnosis tomorrow. Car is a 99 c2 with regular service. Plugs were changed about 10k miles ago and the coil packs were inspected. Did not find any indication of cracking or other failure. Alternator was replaced around the same time frame due to catastophic failure. Car is a daily driver and has a little over 126,000 miles. Any ideas or suggestons?

POST 2Original post

coils were inspected? maybe a replacement of the coils or the cables...its gotta be somewhere along that line... Was the shop reputable?

POST 3Original post

misfires on one bank could be really bad but lets skip that. evap purge valve sticks open its a big vacum leak, that could difantly casue your problems being you have a fault p0441 i would guess?

POST 4Original post

Mine started as a misfire in bank 1 (if that is drivers side) and, not to scare you, cost me $11K. Better luck to you.

POST 5Original post

Agree with Redridge...at least to keep it cheaper and more positive....I had similar syptoms when I picked up my 996 shipped from New York...turned out to be a bad coil on one cylinder....felt like it was running a few cylinders short, but would run...but felt like something holding it back. Hope it's some thing like that and not the $11K hit. Best of luck.........Chuck

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks guys. Transporting it back home in the next week so I can get my local dealer to look at it. The monkeys here are saying bent valve from overrev. Not. I'm suspecting either a vacuum leak or a variocam failure. We'll see.

POST 7Original post

misfire 1 2 3 from over rev............................. i dont think thats likely

POST 8Original post

It would be easier to diagnose if we had all the fault code numbers...

POST 9Original post

p0300 p0301 p0302 p0303 p0441 from the sounds of it, this sounds like soemthing a lil out of the reach of a home mechanic may be time to take it to a pro

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Brad, the 'pros' were the ones that gave the above diagnosis. They are awful anxious to get 10k out of my wallet. So, she's going back home for someone more reliable to look at it. And someone that isn't going to try to put a large rotating device in my hind end.

POST 11Original post

im not with the car so i cant say one way or the other, best of luck to ya. If your close to miami I can make sure you get an accurate diagnosois

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Socially, I think this place is the polar opposite of Miami. Thanks for the encouragement.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

gixxer, I'm going to retrieve the car from BFE this weekend. Hopefully, I'll have a more accurate diagnosis when I get her back home. I'll be sure to update when I have what I consider a reliable analysis.

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