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Porsche's recommended number is a RON number.

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Run 91

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However the car has knocksensors that pull timing so that there will be no engine damage from running 91.

Octane

Run 93 octane

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I'm under the belief that although I can run 93 octane, under race conditions and particularly on hot days, 100 octane would be the choice.

Octane

Run better

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I wouldn't mind picking up some additive if it would help my car run better.

Octane

Run maximum spark advance

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Use only an octane high enough that will allow you to run maximum spark advance with no ill effects.

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Recommend number is a ron number

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Porsche's recommended number is a RON number.

Octane

Run 91

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However the car has knocksensors that pull timing so that there will be no engine damage from running 91.

Octane

Run 93 octane

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I'm under the belief that although I can run 93 octane, under race conditions and particularly on hot days, 100 octane would be the choice.

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Run better

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I wouldn't mind picking up some additive if it would help my car run better.

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Run maximum spark advance

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Use only an octane high enough that will allow you to run maximum spark advance with no ill effects.

Octane

Run more efficiently, hence cooler

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This was the first time I heard it may make the engine run more efficiently, hence cooler.

Octane

Use booster

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Should I be using booster?

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to use a booster.

Octane

Use higher octane gas, specially

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In a high compression engine that most likely doesnt have a knock sensor it would be safer to use higher octane gas, specially under racing conditions on a hot day, you might produce more power but more importantly you will prevent detonation..

Octane

Use higher octane will give you no performance benefit

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If your timing is not being retarded with 93 octane fuel, then using a higher octane will give you no performance benefit.

Octane

Use lower octane gas will require some timing

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Using lower octane gas will require some timing to be pulled to prevent detonation.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have race prepped 3.8L 964 engine in my 92 964 with 280 RWHP. I'm under the belief that although I can run 93 octane, under race conditions and particularly on hot days, 100 octane would be the choice. Does this sound accurate? I always thought the octane an engine ran was a function of timing/ignition and increasing the octane would have no positive affect. This was the first time I heard it may make the engine run more efficiently, hence cooler. Is this plausible? Am I generating more HP with 100 octane, or would I need to "chip it" to yeild a HP gain? If chipping it would help, who would make the "chip of choice"?

POST 2Original post

It depends on a number of factors but primarily compression ratio. If you have a particularly high compression, the engine will need high octane gas to make max power. Using lower octane gas will require some timing to be pulled to prevent detonation. For lower compression engines, they can use optimum timing on lower octane gas with no detonation so there is no performance gain from going to higher octane. Ian

POST 3Original post

If your timing is not being retarded with 93 octane fuel, then using a higher octane will give you no performance benefit. However, the higher octane will provide you with more protection from knock on hot days. More of an insurance than anything else.

POST 4Original post

In a high compression engine that most likely doesnt have a knock sensor it would be safer to use higher octane gas, specially under racing conditions on a hot day, you might produce more power but more importantly you will prevent detonation..

POST 5Original post

Use only an octane high enough that will allow you to run maximum spark advance with no ill effects. Any higher is not only a waste of $$$ but foolish in that you are consuming a slower burning fuel than needed and the results will be LESS potential power.

POST 6Original post

Should those of us living in California, where 91 is the most you can get from most stations, be adding an octane booter? I'm speaking 996 (this IS the 996 board, after all), I think I've heard that the engine was designed for 95 octane, right? I've been sticking with Chevron Supreme 91, because I've fallen for the marketing hype on Techron and the quality of Chevron gas. I wouldn't mind picking up some additive if it would help my car run better.

POST 8Original post

I'm not sure, but I think this may be apples and oranges. I might be wrong, but I think the manual gives you a RON number for octane, whereas what you see on the pump is an average of RON and MON. Remember that octane isn't a substance, it's a property. The octane rating shown on the pump here is usually 5 or so points lower than in the rest of the world, so 95 octane in Germany is equivalent to ordinary 91 octane premium fuel here.

POST 10Original post

With my 997S I have found the engine to perform with less noice when I have ST104 (octane additive) added to the tank. 91 is typical California but Porsche suggests 93 as the minimum. With the VarioValve engines the octane is less an issue, but you do trade away performance/HP/mileage.

POST 11Original post

Again, read the manual. Porsche's recommended number is a RON number. Pump octane is an average between two scales, RON and MON. Your 91 pump is the same as the 95 Porsche recommends.

POST 12Original post

The gas cap suggest 93 averaged. In Texas we have 93 but all I can find in Cali is 91. Should I be using booster?

POST 13Original post

You are right the averaged (as california rates it) is 93. However the car has knocksensors that pull timing so that there will be no engine damage from running 91. You do not need to use a booster. But you could use a booster.

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