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It was a couple of days before xmas and the owner and I opened each box like it was the best present of the year.
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Or you installed an X51 kit o your non X51 engine....I am just stating what Brandywine Porsche said in another forum about the 3.4L X51 engine.
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Gents,
Several people have asked me for the link to the information on the Euro X51 kit that is fitted to my car. There is a picture and full parts list. I think the picture alone half justifies the near $20K price tag!
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic...=372397&hw=x51
That's all you need to show to some of the nieve people on this board that beleive you can get 25hp from a CAI or Mufflers!
That picture is worth a thousand words. THAT my friends is what it takes to get 25hp the "real" way.
Charles,
I agree, but you have to cast your mind back to 1999. Certainly in Europe, you could not get a GT3 for love nor money. The first owner of my car was unable to get a GT3 in time, so he went for the next best thing in his mind. He specced the X51, PSE, GT3 bucket seats in leather, MO30, LSD etc. The car was even delivered without rear seats and belts...
When I rebuilt my 996 race car as a 3.6L I had to order the engine and X51 separately. I'll never forget the day it showed up at the race shop that built my car. It was a couple of days before xmas and the owner and I opened each box like it was the best present of the year.
The picture doesn't show that it also includes a software upgrade.
As for power, I have a 320 hp dyno sitting around somewhere. That's RWHP btw. Try getting there with a plenum.
p.s. IT'S FOR SALE!
Thanks for posting that here. Are you sure that is the 3.4L kit? (I know the OP's car was a 3.4, but he didn't appear to claim it was his kit either, as his was factiry fit as well) Some parts appear to be missing. The 3.4l X51 kit includes the oil pump and pickup tube similar to that sold by PMNA.
Also keep in mind the X51 for the 3.4L engine WILL NOT fit on the US model 3.4L cars....I forget exactly why, but something about the US vs European differences which make it impossible to add it to our cars. This came up on 6 speed online when someone wanted to order a new engine and saw a 3.4L x51 engine listed by Porsche and wanted to put it in his US car. Wont work...
I think it was more about the cylinder heads used in the 3.4L X51 having something extra, or needed something extra so it would PHYSICALLY not work on a US 3.4L car. It wasnt a smog certification as not all US states require one and that wouldnt put off some people in states that did...like people that bought superchargers in CA....lots of them, and they proably will never get a smog certification.
Newport,
I looked all around and see no information stating this. Only thing mentioned on RennTech is that early 99 cars had a different piston design which required you to swap them out... but that is misleading since the X51 parts list for the 3.4 includes new pistons required to clear the more aggressive exhaust valves.
-Paul
Damn! I wish you had told me that last year! I never would have had the kit installed if I knew it were
impossible!
Certainly. Won't fit. Don't need anyone else even trying. Any 3.4l X51 parts that may still exist won't fit your engines anyway, so don't even buy 'em. Leave 'em for me for spares.
Actually, the description in the manual, which isn't really the X51 parts list, lists pistons, but they aren't a part of the kit, nor are they necessary, at least for an '01.
So you have a 3/4L X51 ENGINE from Porsche? Or you installed an X51 kit o your non X51 engine....I am just stating what Brandywine Porsche said in another forum about the 3.4L X51 engine. They said it was not a possibility for US cars, stated why....I took them to be pretty reliable, if they are wrong great as a COMPLETE 3.4L X51 engine was under 10k.
Installed 3.4l X51 kit onto no X51 US 3.4l engine (2001). It might actually be harder, though no where near impossible, to put the 3.4l X51 engine in a US car.
IMO... smarter to just order a 3.6l X51 crate motor and sell the stock 3.6l on EBAY. Net with labor savings is probably better and you get a new zero hours engine out of the deal.