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YOUR RESEARCHMy tip goes into 5th gear so early
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It will automatically adjust into the appropriate shift mode for your driving style.
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You can always change the filter and oil and see what happens.
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I only use the auto setting 5% of the time, mostly combined with the cruise control on a long highway drive, (and shhhh...
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- Gearbox cannot be shifted to P setting past 6mph.
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I only use the auto setting 5% of the time, mostly combined with the cruise control on a long highway drive, (and shhhh...
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Once in a great while I would mimic this behavior in my manual equipped cars using very little throttle once the car moving and then upshift but continue to keep the engine speed low, down around 1200 rpms or so.
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Nothing.
The trans is not governed, it is electronic.
To the OP, there is nothing you can do other than get on it a bunch and let the computer learn your driving style.
This will only last for a short period, then driving like a grandma will put you back in short shift mode for MPGs.
Yes. Use more the a nanometer of throttle. Been a long time since I drove an automatic regularly but my memory is that if I just depressed the gas pedal a tiny bit the pick up truck would accelerate, gain speed of course, and the automatic would continue to upshift until it was in high gear and this could occur at a pretty low speed.
Once in a great while I would mimic this behavior in my manual equipped cars using very little throttle once the car moving and then upshift but continue to keep the engine speed low, down around 1200 rpms or so.
At some point the car's moving maybe 45mph and the tranny's in 6th gear. (This in my 6.0l V8 GTO with 6-speed.) I have not done this that I can recall in my Turbo. I have done it with my Boxster but it does not have the torque and my very sensitive right foot refuses to lug the engine and more gas pedal travel is used.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I only use the auto setting 5% of the time, mostly combined with the cruise control on a long highway drive, (and shhhh... mostly when I'm drinking coffee).
As far as I gather, the shift points were driven by avg fuel economy claims by Porsche. You can alter the mapping but it is lost upon shut down. A few WFO runs and you'll see the shift points alter a bit higher - but not that much higher. You may see 55mph before the 5th gear shift point - not much of a difference really.
One thing I do love on the tip is the ability to kick down by just rapidly squeezing and immediately releasing the throttle. This will drop you down to the absolutely lowest gear available near instantly, would be 5th to 2nd in your stated range, and you can then slide the shift lever over to hold that gear.
Also works while braking
I too haven't driven in auto mode much on surface streets or back roads, really only highways
This is my biggest complaint about the Tiptronic. The shifting in the Auto mode just runs thru the gears and before you know it you are running around town going 35mph in 5th gear at about 1200RPM. I usually let it go into 3rd or 4th gear and then switch to Manual mode, which will keep it in 3rd or 4th without going into 5th gear. Then at a stop, I switch it back into auto mode and do it all over again. I asked everybody and anybody if there was a way to modify that by reprogramming and the answer was a resounding "NO!"
You would need to find someone who could program all new settings for what is my ver 5.2.2 and I don't think even if we could find someone willing to send the time that we could afford it! Mine has fewer adjustments then the later 7.8 program which has up to 250 points.
From Adrian's book:
- There are also differences between the Chrysler and ZF made tip's. The 3.4 turbo's and all 3.6's have Chrysler built units with the ZF unit being lighter by 30lbs.
- The TCU unit (in the backseat for the most part) was made by Siemens.
- The Chrysler unit runs hotter then the ZF.
- 2 reverse gears for the Chrysler.
- Gear kick down before corner works from brakelight signal to ECU.
- Steering input data to TCU - TCU decides if gearbox up/down shifts can take place if normal shift program point is reached ie, in the middle of a sharp bend trans unit stays in gear without shifting.
- Gearbox cannot be shifted to P setting past 6mph. (Not willing to test this out!)
There is so much more to these auto units that make them one of the best units on the market.
The new 977 units are a world way higher then the tip as well.
Ok, the truth is this is not all doom and gloom.
There are 2 solutions....
1. Is called the Sprint Throttle Booster and it runs about $300.
2. Would be an ECU reprogramming, which costs about $1000.
Both would improve throttle lag, make the e-gas sportier, and make the car more fun to drive. Much like having sport chrono w/ sport button.
I think the Sprint Booster w/ appropriate "stab and release" pedal techinique would make the car much more fun to drive.
Yes, you did!
By the time I can afford to get back into a 911 there will probably be a 4th option:
4. Buy 5 year old 2010 911 Turbo w/ PDK.
Time to go to Vegas Babey!!
GIAC did have a TCU program for the turbos, have spoken with them, from what I remember they just didn't see the need to produce a flash for the standard cars since the shifts are already fast (hydraulically/mechanically limited, software is not holding it back)
98(RoW)-01 are all ZF except turbo which are Mercedes Benz (they are not Chrysler units, they were at the time sourced through then Daimler Chrysler but are true MB units, the particular generation of which I have a little too much experience with, but in a word, bulletproof for a planetary/torque converter box)
02 to 08 are all MB, 3 variants, one for C2, one for C4, and a higher rated (torque) unit for TT
Sprint booster will probably work, although the one guy on this board who bought had some car trouble about two weeks after he installed it from what I recall.
The Tiptronic has a bunch of shift programs, and will tailor itself to your driving style to shift the way it senses you want it to. If you drive like a granny, it will be in 5th gear before you clear the intersection. If all you do is push the go pedal to the floor, you'll still be in 2nd at 70mph.
The way to fix this is to not drive like a granny. It will automatically adjust into the appropriate shift mode for your driving style. Alternately, you can give it "hints" via the tip paddles. If you downshift into 1st before launching from red lights and tromp the gas hard, the tip will pretty quickly get the hint and automatically put you into first and delay upshifts. Likewise, if you're always tapping up to 5th after coming to speed, it will think it's in too aggressive a mode and will upshift early. If you do this, it's fine, just be prepared to manually downshift, too. I've got my tip trained very well for my driving style; it will shift automatically shift from 5th to 2nd to 5th in about as many seconds when I break clear of heavy traffic and get up to proper speed on the highway, which is something that's impossible to do manually.
All sprint booster does it push the gas peddle harder for you. You can push it harder yourself for free without mods; flooring the pedal to the stops will *always* engage the lowest gear and get you there faster. Most effective, of course, if you're already in the lowest gear.
OK so I'm not the only one who's got mixed feelings about tip transmission...
I'm lucky enough to have a choice of "manly" toys but the wife was feeling left out because she can't drive any of them (they're all stick shift ) needless to say she caught on that this is no coincidence... fearing the fires of hell I finally got a tip tronic
(I was getting a little tired of all that clutching in slow traffic anyway).
Guess what, she drove it once and decided she liked her CLK better!
Being a typical guy, I of course immediately customized the hell out of it.
40 grand later and this C4S is absolutely my favorite ride.
I also got over the tip issue by chipping the car, it makes a huge difference!!!!
Although it does mean you'll spend most of your time (in town) in 1st and 2nd
...needless to say, I really didn't have a choice but to get high-flow headers, 200 cell cats and a sports exhaust
Cheers guys.
Sid.
