BEST SOUNDING EXHAUST?? PSE OR FABSPEED

Okay guys...I NEED a better sounding P...and my "modding hairs" are standing up in my neck......got to mod! Did everything I could think of: facelift from 99 to 03, lowered the P, CF sills, 3 spoke steering wheel, everything inside black (from that ugly 99 graphite black), cold air intake, wilhelmy remote/smart top (currently being repaired), silver airbag strip, alu rings around gauges, but now I need a better sportier sound, and I hope this post is going to give me the answer; PSE or FABSPEED????

They both sound great. I think there should be some exhaust clips done in the past if you do a search (topic has been beaten with a telephone poll) . I know Fabspeed has some sound clips on their website. The only way you will find out what the "BEst sounding exhaust" is if you hear them both. Everyone will claim their exhaust sounds the best...

If you can afford it, PSE can NOT be touched for sound!

I know about the sound clips from fabspeed I have been listening to them....I want that raspy Ferrari sound..the sound that makes you do a double take, because it sounds great not because you think it is a Civic or muscle car. Dell I have heard people on this forum saying PSE is a little tame and that Fabspeed sounds better....

PSE is MUCH better than the fabspeed... I"ve heard them both in person and bought the PSE.

thanks pete ...this is an answer I can work with...

PSE...For sure the fabspeed is pretty and lighter, but really its all about the sound, PSE has my vote, yes i am bias

I am looking for the best sound...don't care about HP's or weight...just sound...and I see where this is going....PSE probably..anybody know how much the PSE would set me back?

PSE and do the switch install too. Clean and OEM.

where are all the Fabspeed owners??!! I Vote for Fabspeed!!! damn the PSE!~!!

do you have to install the switch? If it is to silence the P..I am not interested.....will always want to listen to the sound

evo.....is this because you went for the Fabspeeds? or because you really prefer the sound?

Can someone fill me in on this PSE switch? I've never heard of a muffler having electronics involved.

Nicolas, I bought the car with the Fabspeed on it.... The PSE is not as loud as the Fabspeed, although it is nice sounding. PSE is more throatier than the Fabspeed, the Fabspeed is definitely deeper. That's why I think it's a matter of preference. None of the two have the grumble of a Ferrari you are looking for though IMO. I like the exhaust somewhat loud, so I would choose fabspeed if I had to buy.... Plus, when you combine it with a chip, intake and headers, it sounds amazing... the cost and the weight savings are just icing on the cake

thanks evo...I understand about the Ferrari sound, just tried to make readers understand what I am looking for...and the throatiness is what I am looking for...do you feel the fabs sound more like a muscle car? More of a rumble, because this is how it sounded in the clips on the fabspeed site..

Borrowed for another board might help you. If you want it to sound like a ferrari add 6 more cylinders. well I did the install yesterday.. prettys stratight forward, but I love the sound so much more! night and day difference! I will post up a driving video soon! with cats http://media.putfile.com/exhaust-with-Cats89 fabspeed setup http://media.putfile.com/cat-bypass car has fabspeed headers, and I BELIEVE fabspeed exhaust (already installed when I bought the car. MY inital experience... my car sideways a little easier than before, I can def. feel a low end difference when it pulls! and it seems to go through the RPM range faster! DEF worth the install

marlinspike - The PSE exhaust "cans" have a an electronically controlled vacuum actuator that opens or closes a baffle (or flap) in an "extra� pipe that stock exhaust can don't have. The first pic shows the stock exhaust cans. The top can is stock, while the lower can has been modified (or hacked) to simulate the PSE sound by adding the "extra" pipe. The second pic shows the PSE exhaust cans with the vacuum valve. Also notice the "extra" pipe in the second pic. Without the electronic wiring and switch, the PSE is always ON (loud mode). With the electronic wiring and switch, the PSE can be turned OFF (quiet) or ON (loud). There is one more wrinkle... with the switch and the PSE ON, there is a speed sensitive "cut off" mode that will revert the PSE to quiet mode between 25 to 40 MPH. Presumably, this was done to enable PSE to comply with noise ordinances in various countries. This automatic "cut off" can be overridden or bypassed in a couple of ways (neither of which I will cover here). Once the bypass has been completed, then you simply have the potion for ON (loud) or OFF (quiet). Let me know if you have any additional questions.

Nicolas, just go to one of the next Porsche gatherings. You are bound to hear the PSE and the Fabs in person. If you're lucky, you'll also here the Rufs, Cargraphics, and the Kreissig (which sounds like an F1 car...almost too loud). Then, you can pick what suits you best. These audio files just don't do it justice. Frankly, the ultimate would be getting a ride in each of the cars to hear them at speed.

Adding the Fabspeed changes the whole dynamic of the car - it just sounds wicked. It snarls when you initially give it gas, it sounds low and mean all through the rev range at WOT, and it doesn't drone on the freeway. It is, hands down, the best way to spend a thousand bucks on your Porsche.

Only heard fabspeed once, and decided to install PSE mufflers only myself. I will _never_ go back to stock cans again. PSE is ultimative the best mod you can do to the car

PSE - awesome porsche sound Fabspeed - american muscle car sound with possibility of resonance I got mine off a rennlister used, been great!

you right nutbeem..thought about this Yesterday night...PCA has a Porsche meeting every 1st Saturday of the month in Orange County, CA....this would be the best way.

Fabspeed Muffler Bypass Pipes Muffler? We don't need no stinkin' muffler!

Of all the exhausts I've had/experienced (PSE,Fabs,Fab bypass pipes,GHLreg,GHLloud,stockC4S), the Fabs were clearly the best sounding, fitting, and quality. The only question is the country of origin, maybe important, maybe meaningless, who knows.

I am with you Andy...but I don't think the neighborhood or wife will be very excited.....and I don't know if the sound is to muscle car like....I think I have heard a P without the bypass pipes and it sounded like a muscle car.....i think I prefer more throaty....but I have to admit that the P sounded straight from a racetrack and it was about 1/2 mile away!

There is absolutely no resonance with my Fabspeed. Can't speak for others. The problem I had with PSE is that my dealer wanted to charge me an insane amout to install even without the switch.

No brainer: Install them yourself.

You are giving me way too much credit . I can take my dirt bikes aoarts but I have a mental block when it comes to fiddling with my car.

Nicolaas-I'm in Newport and have the PSE if you want to hear them let me know. IMO they sound great.

thanks 4s that would be great..I am in Huntington Beach..so you are really next door...let me know when you have time, Nicolaas

I put the Fabspeeds on my GT3 and I like them. No resonance or droning. High quality product and considerable weight savings. Less than half the cost of the PSE.

Okay...you guys are convincing me I need a different exhaust even though I had planned on not modding this car (well, not much). What's a reasonable price (besides free ) for a used set?

Nicolaas- Always have time for a fellow rennlister. I'll just take a cruise up PCH. PM me where and when you have time.

PSE hands down! i HAD PSE and now have fabspeed and i regret it! if weight/cost isn't a concern then PSE all the way. PSE - no resonance or drone...the fabspeeds drone slightly when blow 4000rpms. PSE is louder and my neighbours think so too. they notcied right away how much quieter the fabspeeds are (and thank me for it ). the fabspeeds are not quiet but they are just not as loud just for reference, i have fabspeed now and had GHL quiet, GHL loud, and PSE.

nobody mentionted ztek or schnell why or why not

oh i forget i say schnell so atleast you won't sound like a honda civic forgive the extra post sometimes my thoughts come in pairs or is just that there are time gaps between complete thougths anywho jmho!

The GHL louds are way louder than fabs and they resonate as well. The GHL regs are barely louder than stock. I think fabs are about the same as PSE and no resonance, but the GHL louds are waayy louder than even I expected.

Agree with Surgeon on the GHL's. Wanted them, but when I listened in person I immediately changed my desires. Not a bad sound in the least, just not what I was looking for. PSE was perfect for me and I make sure to enjoy it each and every day. The gas stations around here really like it a lot, too- driving style got significantly more aggressive and mpg much less conservative with the cans on